20$ for the live strem?

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Originally Posted by Starlord

I am only stating how I feel, Nothing that deal with entitlement, because in the end SE is the one that makes the call on those sort of things, so of course I will "deal with it". I am only complaining to give my feedback to them, not to really debate on whether this is an "entitlement issue" or not.

In the end, I'll get all the information within 1-5 hours of the announcement anyways.

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It's a matter of paying for the experience of it. That's really the way you SHOULD be looking at it. Some people just can't stand SD when HD is an option. It's like watching a concert streamed live versus being there in person. I actually don't like to be among a crowd, so I'll pay for a streamed service (as long as the cost is reasonable... if it were a $100 ticket for the show or $30 for HD streamed service with access to little bonus stuff sort of thing). You're right in that the information will be made available immediately after, which is why they throw in little bonuses like the mog outfit for the people who wish the experience the event but can't be there in-person. They know this.

It's a question of whether or not it's worth it for you, the individual. If it's not, then it's not. Given the cost that you pay monthly, a one-time optional charge of around that price is NOT unreasonable of a business to ask for. The fact that a bulk of it is still free to watch in SD is reason enough to just be happy about it, as the main reason viewers would be tuning in is for the LL afterall. Things like the opening/closing ceremony and keynote is NOT why the majority of people will be watching the stream. Would a lot of them choose to watch it for free? Of course. Is that the main reason they're tuning in? Most likely not.

Meh. I'll pay the $20 just for the moogle suit that I'll never use in game and to have access to the hd stream archive if im unable to watch it live. $20 isnt a big deal. But with that said I already plan on being disappointed. With 3 of theses fan fests and NA being the 1st one. We are going to get the shaft as far as info releases go. NA will probably be nothing more than talk about 2.4 and a pic of the title for the expansion with some artwork and thats it. Im sure theres a reason the JP fan fest is last and that will be the one with all the big expansion info. Likely without an english translation as usual. EU fan fest will probably focus on 2.5.

I'm still a bit on the fence. Not a huge fan of the Moogle Suit and the reveals are probably going to be live tweeted to death within 2 mins of their announcement w/ SE releasing official video/images/press releases the day after. Meh I may just spend the cash on another retainer and pig out with a pizza for the SD stream. The perks this go round are not that appealing for me. SE will probably get the $20 bucks somewhere down the line if they release a Collector's edition of the expansion.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

In-game costumes for a subscription-based MMORPG usually do not cost money at all. We don't typically pay to view game trailers, previews, and other promotional videos either.

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You sure? Because the last 2 MMOs I played before this, LOTRO and TSW, I had subscriptions to both and there were lots of cosmetic items gated behind the cash shop.

ESO, which I played briefly, also had a horse in the cash shop from day 1 and the Imperial race was, effectively, behind a paywall.

So it's far from unique and this HD Stream package is, to my mind, one of the less insidious ways go about it.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

In-game costumes for a subscription-based MMORPG usually do not cost money at all. We don't typically pay to view game trailers, previews, and other promotional videos either.

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WoW, Lotro, ESO would all like a word with you.

Edit: Add TSW to the list as mentioned by SgtPepperUK.

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Again, people do not seem to get it -- being unimpressed at the $20 price tag for such little value does not equate to not having the money. Just because someone can theoretically afford something does not make it a good purchase.
And like you said, all the info will be leaked almost immediately -- so that just makes this purchase all the more pointless.

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The value is entirely subjective and a matter of opinion. I'm going to be going the same as Ilitsa and get some Pizza Hut while watching this with my brother who also plays this game . I hope you don't go to the theater with that opinion of yours though because that would be one heck of a hypocritical stance.

Not worth it to me. I'll gladly keep my $20 and read/watch everything after the event ends. And you can keep that ugly moogle suit, too.

JS
TSW and LOTRO aren't subscription based MMOs
They're BTP/FTP with an optional sub

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Originally Posted by ziddyt

JS
TSW and LOTRO aren't subscription based MMOs
They're BTP/FTP with an optional sub

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Can't speak for TSW but LOTRO started as a subscription based MMO and Turbine made it F2P years after. So technically, it is a Subscription-Based MMO with the option of F2P.

$20 isn't that bad and there is a SD option for people who don't want to pay. The competition does their stream for $40 with no free option.

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Originally Posted by Azper

Not worth it to me. I'll gladly keep my $20 and read/watch everything after the event ends. And you can keep that ugly moogle suit, too.

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The Moogle suit makes me think of the snowman suit from the last Christmas event. Also I do want to know what it will look like on elezen :D.