Why are elite hunts so valuable? What are the devs thoughts?

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

Try understanding the statement you quoted from me, then don't respond.

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Your statement was in no way connected to the post you were responding to. Guy said it's broken because it has unbalanced rewards then you reply saying, "The hunts aren't broken. It's the players than are causing whatever problem you're experiencing."

So, yeah, either you struggle with reading comprehension or just the English language in general. Either way, you should refrain from posting until you fix one or both.

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Originally Posted by Taruranto

Nothing wrong with that. Dungeons are instanced. Hunts are not.

Instanced content doesn't belong in a mmorpg and automatically garbage that panders to non-mmorpg players. ;)

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I assume you're being sarcastic.

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Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard

Your statement was in no way connected to the post you were responding to. Guy said it's broken because it has unbalanced rewards then you reply saying, "The hunts aren't broken. It's the players than are causing whatever problem you're experiencing."

So, yeah, either you struggle with reading comprehension or just the English language in general. Either way, you should refrain from posting until you fix one or both.

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Clearly my reply was too nuanced for you. You should refrain from reading & commenting on any of my posts. Had you read my second paragraph rather than activate trolling, you would have seen I addressed his "unbalanced" argument. Next.

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Originally Posted by Makado

Why don't people understand that sands and oils are capped by soldiery?

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Why don't you understand that 2.2 has been out for 4 months and many people have full soldiery gear?

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Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee

How are they not broken when they aren't balanced with the rest of the content?

A full hard mode dungeon clear gets you 50 myth and 45 soldiery.

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you can hunt and get:
B Rank: 5 Allied Seals, 30 Myth and 10 Soldiery.
A Rank 20 Seals, 80 Myth and 20 Soldiery.
S Rank 50 seals, 200 Myth, 40 Soldiery.

In the time it takes to run one dungeon you can get multiple B/A rank kills for far greater rewards. Not only that but you're also collecting allied seals on top of it. There is no content equivalent to hunts which make them devalue the rest of the game.

To balance Hunts with the rest of the content SE needs to take away myth and soldiery from the hunt rewards and limit the number of books you can purchase each week.

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Well I didn't enjoy the idea of having to do 30 Brayflox speedruns for each Animus upgrade book. It requires 1,500 Myth per book or a total of 13,500 Myth to upgrade from Atma to Animus, before Hunts this meant you literally had to do 270 Bray SRs to fully upgrade your weapon. Does that sound fun to you?

I'm really happy the Hunts give so much Myth, because normal people who didn't run Bray 24 hours a day actually had a chance of upgrading Atma to Animus. This is I think one of the goals that Squenix had when they implemented Hunts.

There's no reason to nerf the tome rewards from Hunts, because before Hunts the amount of grinding you had to do in order to get the Myth for Atma to Animus upgrades was absolutely insane, and even if all you wanted to do was cap your Soldiery weekly you would have to run Bray 9 times. Who wants to run Bray 9 times every week? The 4-man dungeons in this game are so boring and terrible, and Coil is on lockout so even if you did your weekly Coil farms you still need to run Bray just to finish capping Soldiery.

Hunts are amazing, I'm already on my 6th book out of 9 for Artemis Bow Animus and realistically had I stopped every time I had hit 1,500 Myth I could have had all 9 books done in a week instead of getting 14 Saurian Skins. But I'm really happy with how Hunts work in terms of getting Myth fast.

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Originally Posted by Illya

Well I didn't enjoy the idea of having to do 30 Brayflox speedruns for each Animus upgrade book. It requires 1,500 Myth per book or a total of 13,500 Myth to upgrade from Atma to Animus, before Hunts this meant you literally had to do 270 Bray SRs to fully upgrade your weapon. Does that sound fun to you?

I'm really happy the Hunts give so much Myth, because normal people who didn't run Bray 24 hours a day actually had a chance of upgrading Atma to Animus. This is I think one of the goals that Squenix had when they implemented Hunts.

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No one forced you to do speed runs. I've upgraded my Animus, and I didn't do a single brayflox speed run. The difference? You had your new shiny weapon a few weeks before me. Big whoop.

Hunt devalue the rest of the games content, because they over reward for the nature of the content. It has made the game unbalanced in reward design. Which is why you see the massive zerg.

It's not because hunts are the most fun this game has to offer. It's hunts are the single most rewarding thing to do in the game.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

I think it's more that they want more people geared for when they introduce the next wave of content. Apparently they had an issue with not enough people being geared for certain levels of content, so now they're giving the community a "push" to be able to reach that level in anticipation of the next "wave."

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Well if this was the case why not have sand/oil drop from elite dungeons and EX trials? Instead it's one specific, non raid, piece of end game content instead of all of it.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

Why don't you understand that 2.2 has been out for 4 months and many people have full soldiery gear?

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Guess you didn't bother to read my comment. Not everyone caps soldiery every week, and then you have new players as well. It takes 7 weeks of soldiery cap just to get your legs, body, and an allagan tomestone weapon (also whatever time it would take to win a roll on one). I do not know the numbers on who does and doesn't get max soldiery, and neither do you. But I'd say those who always do most likely did coil and had their pieces before hunts anyways (or at least were getting a few).