Frontlines is ruined by exploits, SE need to fix it

When I first heard about how there would be PvP abilities I assumed they meant you would have an entirely different set of abilities just for PvP that replaced all your normal stuff, because they talked about them like they were there to help balance things. I was kind of surprised that you just keep all your normal business and have a couple PvP specific "oh ****" buttons on 3 minute cooldowns.

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Originally Posted by ZenTao

I keep noticing trend of full group of WHM/SCH going in frontline and almost impossible to kill without LB. its creating big imbalance and allow some players to exploit this to farm wins without properly PvPing.

I really suggest for SE to fix the system simply by not allowing more then 2 healers in a full group. ie, if a third player try to change his class to healer during the match, he will not be able to until one of those healers switch to something else.


Edit: if you do not want to call it exploit go ahead. but it sure is over powered and cause imbalance in frontline

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I don't see a problem here, given that you can change class/job at any time. Getting whooped by WHM/SCH? Level WHM/SCH and lay down some whoop of your own!

You only play Marauder you say?? Well this isn't WOW, its FFXIV and you'd better level all your jobs and classes to be successful.

get a SMN and lay down some mortal strike debuffs? Welcome to actual pvp - if you're getting cheesed, find a way to outplay the cheese.

There should probably be some sort of balance on the healings done, I've seen these massive healing blobs before- they're incredibly annoying. Since the point is to stay on the circles instead of being spread out the aoe healing issue is definitely compounded.

Could be a stacking debuff that reduces healing effectiveness and has a 5 second non stacking timer, then spamming cure from 5 healers would be ineffective quickly but two or so would not be. Non-stacking meaning that each unit of the debuff has its own timer.

Healer stacking isnt that useful in mid, comparatively op on the circles (imo). There is one spell you can use that is awesome if they are stacked though, the one that reduces casting speed by 50%.. lol awesome.

The legendary healer brigades lay the smack down on dps by healing and not attacking lol
Priceless!
How does 8 blm flare spamming a group of camping healers fair?
I mean have you ever considered that?

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

The legendary healer brigades lay the smack down on dps by healing and not attacking lol
Priceless!
How does 8 blm flare spamming a group of camping healers fair?
I mean have you ever considered that?

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It's really just a waiting game till the group with less healers, runs out of mana then it's downhill from there, yawn.

It's more of an annoying strategy to play against than an exploit. An Exploit would be like using BXB in Halo 2. This scenario is more like a composition being difficult to deal with and also making the experience crappy for the other side.

That said, I don't see any negative to placing a limit on the number of healers. If your team is squashed when you have 8 healers, they're doing something TERRIBLY wrong or the other team is doing something TERRIBLY right.

In any case, I think the limit should be placed for the sake of preventing enjoyability from going down the drain. If this composition did catch on, the matches would be staler than year-old Honey Comb.

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Originally Posted by Jasiwel

If this composition did catch on, the matches would be staler than year-old Honey Comb.

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It's already starting to catch on more and more. Since the OP created this thread it's become more and more of an occurrence in Frontlines. For future reference OP, if something rubs you the wrong way and you think it's an "exploit" don't create a thread complaining about it, report your concern through the proper channels.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

When I first heard about how there would be PvP abilities I assumed they meant you would have an entirely different set of abilities just for PvP that replaced all your normal stuff, because they talked about them like they were there to help balance things. I was kind of surprised that you just keep all your normal business and have a couple PvP specific "oh shit" buttons on 3 minute cooldowns.

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You do lose a few skills in PvP though. Not all of your arsenal transfers across, and some skills transfer but simply have no effect, such as Provoke.

Honestly though, the PvP skills aren't particularly great. You need to invest a TON of points in them to get them up to scratch and aside from a handful, most are just too similar to your existing skills to be that beneficial.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

There will not be no need for a nerf, if they only put 2 healers per group...
And I agree with him at least.
It's annoying to be the only healer, and the other team has like 3 or for of them, to spam heal for days or even
pop DPS if they feel like, then go back to healing lol. They should at least try to que everyone
with 2 because sometimes you won't even HAVE a healer in 2 of 3 groups or something lol.

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Could be a server problem.
On legacy severs, most have a healer leveled. Especially on characters who are older than 2 years.

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Originally Posted by Pride

This is perfectly fine, it's a strategy. All you have to do if figure out how to beat it. I just suggest focus targeting one-by-one. Get creative with the strategies, that's the whole point with PvP. =P... This group comp probably doesn't do too well when it comes to the Helio I'm guessing? Sounds like a way to get keep outposts only.

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Yes, it sound like a pure defence strat.
Hard shell, but no teeth