Patch 1.18: Miscellaneous Adjustments (07/14/2011)

Oh, no, I don't mean overpowered - I just mean that if we try to separate CON from THM by giving it both WHM and BLM, then we accidentally end up giving CON the powers of "Astral and Umbral" which is actually the foundation of being a THM in the first place. Whoops! There's really not much of an escape from the logic-loop SE has backed themselves into on the mage front.

Oh now I know what you mean. Both classes control Astral and Umbral in their own ways, though.

Has anyone stopped to think that with AoE toggle disappearing, the only way to heal will be through Conjurer AoE Cure spells? Perhaps Sacrifice will lose it's AoE, essentially wiping out their main healing ability. Just food for thought, since we don't know the final results here.

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Originally Posted by Tezz_Xivectro

15min wait on Return when no KO? How will this do much good to stop death warping? Just seems like they thought they could solve another problem by slapping a timer on something.

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Except dying and using return incurs a durability loss on equipment. This way Return functions like it does in pretty much any other MMO out there and on a much lower timer at that.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Oh, no, I don't mean overpowered - I just mean that if we try to separate CON from THM by giving it both WHM and BLM, then we accidentally end up giving CON the powers of "Astral and Umbral" which is actually the foundation of being a THM in the first place. Whoops! There's really not much of an escape from the logic-loop SE has backed themselves into on the mage front.

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Wut...?


Anyways! So happy that we're getting a little more info about what the class focuses will be going forward. From a lore perspective, I personally like seeing CON being the WHM since thematically their weapons emphasize returning life to dead/dying things.

all i can say with a massive 101 mp cost enjoy using return and running back to you party. easy mode becomes even easier.

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Originally Posted by Rinsui

In Japanese, THM is called 呪術士, which most literally translates to guy-who-uses-cursing-techniques. Not very WHM, is it? ;).

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Id call that a warlock (wow theft ofc lol but best simmilarity i know of) or plain sadist lol

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

all i can say with a massive 101 mp cost enjoy using return and running back to you party. easy mode becomes even easier.

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Shut up you're rere

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

all i can say with a massive 101 mp cost enjoy using return and running back to you party. easy mode becomes even easier.

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Who knows how the dungeons would work, maybe no crystal to set HP at and raise is required, this would be pointless if its uncap(mayb cant change class once u enter dungeon).... But 101MP isn't that bid deal, considering you could get to 700MP at lvl 12 with like 50 MND, lets not forget auto refresh and Siphon/Stygian.

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

Shut up you're rere

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awww such a polite way for a princess to speak.