No changes to ATMA?

Wow does the QQ over this subject ever end?

The only points I've seen made on this topic that I'm even remotely willing to concede to is concerning the content that atmas are attached to. Given all the incessant whining over this I really hope they give you people exactly what you want, but be careful what you wish for as you just might get it. As far as I'm concerned atma grinding via FATEs is candy land considering some ideas on what they could have done, and I'm going to laugh my ass off if SE does make such a change to the system. I'll be standing by with pop-corn as I watch the flood of rage that sweeps into the forums whining that getting an atma is too difficult and takes even more time. But who am I kidding they won't they'll probably cave to the loud casual whiners.

Time will tell I suppose. Sheeze people.

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Originally Posted by Asael

I really hope they give you people exactly what you want

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Thanks, I'm glad we've come to an understanding.

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Originally Posted by JTribal

Maybe because you don't need to accumulate twelve pieces of crap based on randomization in order to get a colored mount. Let's not forget the fact that during the fights that the mount's drop other valuable pieces of loot drop as well, which are some sort of incentive to farming, as opposed to getting minimal gil, GC Seals, and no experience from fates.

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There is 5 other worthless items because there is I100-I110 out. So you get nothing except a few myth and a chance at the horses that I have seen 0 of for like 4 months. This is such BS.

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Originally Posted by SionDurant

You delay a content patch, and acknowledge issues with the system.

But you don't make any changes to it?

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SE please don't become like Enmasse/Bluehole Studios. Tera didn't end up well.

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They delayed it to give people more time to get the atma before the next weapon quest update. They never said they would adjust drop rates or change the first part completely.

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Originally Posted by Makado

There is 5 other worthless items because there is I100-I110 out. So you get nothing except a few myth and a chance at the horses that I have seen 0 of for like 4 months. This is such BS.

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Not everyone is decked out in high level gear in all of their classes, so the fact that they've released higher level gear is irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by JTribal

Not everyone is decked out in high level gear in all of their classes, so the fact that they've released higher level gear is irrelevant.

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How can you not have the new gear? Its bought with tomes of soldiery which SE hands to you from dungeons you can speed run in 10 minutes. Not like you need to do anything special to be "decked out".

It's because primals you need to press more than one button. Fates two if you count hitting the level sync.

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Originally Posted by Makado

How can you not have the new gear? Its bought with tomes of soldiery which SE hands to you from dungeons you can speed run in 10 minutes. Not like you need to do anything special to be "decked out".

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I've hit the cap for Soldiery every week since they released it and still do not lvl100 gear in every slot for my main, so again, not really relevant. Especially when you consider the fact that not everyone has filled all of their slots with ilvl 90 gear for main or secondary characters.

I'm not even sure what the real debate is at this point, this has gotten way off topic.

Stop staying in the same zone for more then 2-4 hrs. I put in under 15hrs to get all my Atma. I did not sit there everyday and spam fates, I would hit a few on my beastmen daily's and spend a little time farming a zone then i would move on. Most of the time i move i get the next Atma with in a few fates. Farming the 13500 myth is more annoying then the fate farming.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Simple fix. Add a counter. At the 1000th FATE you get one regardless.
You can keep the surprise of getting one "early" while also having a clear goal for the people who want it.

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1,000 is a bit ridiculous, but me and my FC members had a discussion about this being a fix as well. If they just kept the RNG the way it was, and put a default counter on each zone (lets say 50, just for the sake of picking a number) then I think a lot of these threads would go away.

You've done 50 Fates in South Thanalan without a drop? Ok, counter has filled up and your 51st Fate would give you an Atma, guaranteed. Using 50 in the examples would guarantee that you had all 12 by the time you did 600 FATEs, maybe sooner if the RNG shined down on your for a zone or two.

Think 600 FATEs is too many? I got my 12 Atma's on the first weekend of 2.2 and I still had to do over 700 of them, so I think it's pretty fair.

But, a simple fix like this would calm a lot of people down, I think.

Unless everyone that said they didn't want it handed to them on a silver platter was just flat out lying. This way you would have something tangible to look at, and not be left wondering forever if you were going to get your drops.