The number of bad players are rising!

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Originally Posted by Provoke

Why is it that good players are always expected to teach bad players?

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Because you can go on and on about the problem... or you can be part of the solution. Not everybody takes criticism well, but if we can all be adults about it, then the world can spin on. If there's anything that can make you happier in a game like this, it's a little less cynicism and a little more empathy.

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Originally Posted by Siobahn

This is the STUPIDEST argument ever. People with certain skills teach teenagers because it's their JOB. They are TEACHERS who get PAID. When bads start paying me to teach them how to not derp, I'll be glad to do so.

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And who pays the teachers? Looks like your tax dollars at work. So either you do it or you pay someone else to do it for you. You don't derp all that well. In every case, it helps you in the long run when the people/players are educated and are able to contribute.

BTW with a the large influx of inexperienced players, a.k.a. so called bads, showing up, could it be that influx was a contribution of the 50% off sale on steam not that long ago?

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Originally Posted by Kezy_Kaatapoh

No one said good players are "expected" to teach bad players. What people are arguing is that experienced players should help teach inexperienced players. People like they guy I argued with for 10 mins about why he shouldn't Provoke pull every mob and boss are the ones who aren't worth helping :P

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We are in agreement pretty much.

From having a good amount of mmo experience, you realize what type of players you should help and who not to. It's your choice really but some people here want to act all self righteous. Not everyone that needs help are nice people.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

OK, I have to ask, how often do you two not play together? Yes...this is important.

What did she do to cause the hate? Pull the Valefor in a way to wipe the raid with tail swipe? (which no tank should do, no matter how inexperienced they are at CT. Its the same enemy as the last boss of AK...)

Also, if one instance without you made her "stop tanking"...maybe she isn't really cut out to be a tank in the first place...

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I work night shift and she works days so probably about 4 days a week... I'm not sure on the whole scenerio and quite frankly it doesn't matter... It wasn't that she was running without me that irrelevant... It's the fact that deuch bags don't need to jump on inexperienced player for whatever reason... I would never berate someone who is trying... EVER... I've ran titan, I get frustrated I get it, but i don't tell people they suck and they need to quit or whatever else... I explain and teach something everyone should be doing... You ever tried doing a meld for someone that is new...

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Originally Posted by Doo

Not really, if you play enough mmos you know there are simply these type of players that are moochers/leechers.

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Well that sounds like the 1% in real life a.k.a. elitist. Why do folks like you assume that people want to be freeloaders? Could it be that the system/society does NOT hand out stuff to everyone so there will be people/player that are in less favorable situations? And it follows then by helping them you help yourself, when they learn what they need to do, they can in turn help other people/players and relieve you of that task.

BTW the reason you think they are all moochers is because you are selfish, and you do NOT want to contribute to common good. By calling them moochers you give yourself the excuse to not care about them. Additionally you think the system should be setup to only benefit you, which really means you are the moocher you so hate, and that would clearly explain your moocher mentality.

The number of bad players are rising? I'm more worried about the number of rude players, they are far worse to deal with it.

This thread is sums everything that is wrong with mankind...

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Originally Posted by Evil_Betox

The number of bad players are rising? I'm more worried about the number of rude players, they are far worse to deal with it.

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Rude players are definitely a much bigger problem. Rude players with elitist attitudes are the worst of them all.

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Not everyone that needs help are nice people.

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This.
Was in a dungeon with a whm that only used cure II and was running out of mana a lot in the middle of fights. A dps said "Hey whm, do you mind if I give you a few tips that'll help you out in the log run from running oom? :)" the whm replied. "You can but I won't listen" .___.

Bad.

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Rude players with elitist attitudes are the worst of them all.

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I feel rude bads are way worse, at least with an elitist you can finish the dungeon, can't do that with a horribad that refuses to take advice.

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Originally Posted by Naberrie

It's called community. If you see an old man burdened with carrying too much and struggling to get through a door do you stop to hold the door open, or tell him next time look up a walk through for the door on YouTube and equip himself better?

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I would walk on by, don't wanna get sued when he pretends to fall and blames me for the injuries kinda like when people try to help out new players only to see them lash back at them and go crying to forums or reddit or what have you