Alright, I'm going to break this down for you guys. As soon as you press the button on an instant skill, the ANIMATION for it starts INSTANTLY (assuming of course you didn't just hit some other ability within the last second). I'm sorry if you want your most powerful defensive skill to take place with no ANIMATION. I bet it would be super awesome if DRG could hit jump and INSTANTLY do the damage without an ANIMATION. We can all just pretend like they jumped though, right?
Abilities can't be used till animation ends.
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03-03-2014, 04:20 PMMikara
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03-03-2014, 04:28 PMFaytoPretty much this. Instant Cast means Instant Cast, which it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikara
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03-03-2014, 04:56 PMSikkunYou mean expect it to work like almost every other game of the genre? Yes, casting time or delay is expected to be time it takes for the ability to happen. If an ability is going to take 4 seconds it needs to have a 4 second delay and have a 4 second cast bar in which the animation can take place. If an ability is INSTANT then the effects of said ability need to be INSTANT not a 4 second delay...that would be an ability with a cast time delay...which is fine if you actually make your ability decriptions, ui, and cooldowns match that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikara
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03-03-2014, 05:02 PMMikara
Well, if we want to get technical about it, I guess every other MMO you have ever played was lying to you from the start. Nothing is actually instant in any game. You hit the button, the game client on your side takes time to recognize it, starts to play the animation, the packet is sent to the server, which processes the animation, (insert damage / heal / ability here), packets get sent back to your client, the photons shooting out of your monitor into your eyeballs. Sorry, that still wasn't instant. Stop crying about something that isn't broken. I mean for fucks sake, they are getting ready to put a tutorial in the game about "how to talk to your party in chat" do they honestly have to spell EVERYTHING out to you people. It should be implied that when you push the button, the ANIMATION is what starts instantly, not the (insert damage / heal / ability here).
/rant.
Edit: Sorry for the harsh language in that line, but I feel it needed to be stressed just how bogus it is that people feel like they need their hand held through everything. -
03-03-2014, 05:05 PMSikkun
And how exacly is it implied wheb I hit a button that says do 1 billion damage 2.5 second cool down that hitting that button does 1 billion damage after a 30second animation of me running in circle like a dog chasing my tail and I can reuse it again in 32.5 seconds....that isnt implied at all.
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03-03-2014, 05:07 PMMikaraYou can't be serious, can you? Please say you are not, because that is the most obnoxious response I have ever seen in my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sikkun
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03-03-2014, 05:14 PMSikkun
I am seriouse its called a delay or cast time. Its nothing new, its been around for a good 14+ years indicate it as such. Cast bar has been there as an indicator of when you expect something to land...while melee is used to there abilties going instantly and animations happening to look pretty.
Im not saying you have to change say hallowed ground to be instant 10 second invincibility, but it should state the cast time and have a cast bar if thats the way it's itended to work. -
03-03-2014, 05:35 PMRoris
Regardless of the technicalities it's all a matter of response, in other MMOs off GCD instant abilities remain instant at all times and sure it might not look pretty when animations just cancel on top of each other but from a gameplay perspective it feels smooth, in ARR instant abilities might be instant when used by themselves but that's not always the case when they're weaved in between other abilities, they're only instant when used after certain abilities and have a very noticeable delay when they're used right after others, that shouldn't be the case at all and should remain instant regardless of how jarring it might look. Some aren't really even instant when used by themselves like Hallowed Ground or Benediction which still have a 1-2 second activation time even when they are labeled instant, go ahead and argue about how "gamebreaking" it would be if they were truly instant and applied their respective effect the moment their key is pressed, that's just ignoring how they should really work properly.
It's exactly the same issue TOR faced at launch and it's really funny how it's met with the same "working as intended" type responses disregarding the issue over here, it's also one of the reasons why PvP in the game is considered a plain joke, guess dedicated fans are the same everywhere. -
03-03-2014, 05:47 PMNero
All these people who just want to faceroll their keyboard without animations.. :rolleyes: YES.. I WANT ALL.. Istant-Abilities goes of AT ONCE.. Because they are ALL INSTANT.. WTF.. Why does this have an animation? What is this?.. Some sort of Aesthetic? The hell to that, i want to Spasm around and make this Game as ugly as oll the other ones out there...
lol... I am pretty sure i know exactly, which Games certain people in here played before. :rolleyes: -
03-03-2014, 05:51 PMtherpgfanatic
OP makes a good point that I agree with.
Unfortunately some players in this thread don't know what is good for them, and would instead like to pretend that only the elite can handle FFXIV's GCD that is inexplicably (and unnecessarily) three times longer than in any other MMO.
Everyone can handle it, most of us just don't like it. There is nothing fun about a character that feels slow.