Leves should be removed or atleast downplayed for overall gameplay?

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Originally Posted by danny52844

:| becuase u know every comment before that one didnt say that i didnt want forced pting :| im just saying with pt as the back bone we can have a standard then minigames like stuff for every1 else like campaign from ff11
btw ff11 sucks now because of abyssia so plz stop saying stuff like that

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Actually, no, I don't know what half of your posts are trying to say due to run-on sentences and choppy phrases. It takes every ounce of effort not to just let my eyes glaze over them. But I do know for sure you irrefutably said, "all im saying is that i think that partying needs to be forced kinda like it was in 11" and now you're saying you didn't? Don't blame me for misinterpretation if you can't properly present what you want to say.

And I thought Kilta's posts made my eyes bleed.

Anyway, I played FFXI from 2004-2008, where you couldn't wipe your nose without a party. I have no idea what it's like now, since that was two computer builds ago, and I haven't reinstalled it since. So I have no idea what Abyssea is all about.

Does it even have anything to do with the point? Is Abyssea comparable to leves?

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Actually, no, I don't know what half of your posts are trying to say due to run-on sentences and choppy phrases. It takes every ounce of effort not to just let my eyes glaze over them. But I do know for sure you irrefutably said, "all im saying is that i think that partying needs to be forced kinda like it was in 11" and now you're saying you didn't? Don't blame me for misinterpretation if you can't properly present what you want to say.

And I thought Kilta's posts made my eyes bleed.

Anyway, I played FFXI from 2004-2008, where you couldn't wipe your nose without a party. I have no idea what it's like now, since that was two computer builds ago, and I haven't reinstalled it since. So I have no idea what Abyssea is all about.

Does it even have anything to do with the point? Is Abyssea comparable to leves?

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read the first post again and ffs please stop qqing about grammer on a forum

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Originally Posted by danny52844

y is it fine that the most dull and boring thing is the best for exp

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Because anything that requires repetition for more than an hour is most likely going to be dull and/or boring?

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Originally Posted by Nuru

Because anything that requires repetition for more than an hour is most likely going to be dull and/or boring?

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which might be true if you always had to do it which is why i keep stressing the thing about alternatives lol maybe party one day for 2-3 hours then leves or behest or some other things SE might make ._.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

It takes every ounce of effort not to just let my eyes glaze over them.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

And I thought Kilta's posts made my eyes bleed.

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That's Hyperbole

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Originally Posted by danny52844

read the first post again and ffs please stop qqing

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I did, and it still advocates that partying should be the backbone of leveling in the game. If you don't mean forced-party grinding, then please explain what you mean?

I'm glad you understand the importance of http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Zone-Long-OP . There is a severe lack of progression, but how do leves, in and of themselves, ruin progression? The issue is actually much more complex.

And FFS, go back to English class.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

That's Hyperbole

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Actually, only number two was hyperbole. The first one is true.

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

Actually, only number two was hyperbole. The first one is true.

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lol... ok...

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Originally Posted by Rowyne

I did, and it still advocates that partying should be the backbone of leveling in the game. If you don't mean forced-party grinding, then please explain what you mean?

I'm glad you understand the importance of http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Zone-Long-OP . There is a severe lack of progression, but how do leves, in and of themselves, ruin progression? The issue is actually much more complex.

And FFS, go back to English class.

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i mean just what it says partying should be the best way of getting exp and by best i mean the fastest way of getting exp and sp
but it shouldnt be the only way to lv up there should be other ways like behest and leves that give less exp but are easier to do more convenient and doesnt take a long time to do with repeatability viable (yes ive said this alot becuase it was awesome) campaign in ff11 it didnt give exp anywhere near partying yet it was fun and very convenient to do and i enjoyed doing it when i got bored of partying

leves ruin progress because in a mmorpg the solo aspect of the game should never be the main progress model of the game if u want to play by urself and talk to ppl buy an offline game and play it while ur on facebook

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Originally Posted by danny52844

which might be true if you always had to do it which is why i keep stressing the thing about alternatives lol maybe party one day for 2-3 hours then leves or behest or some other things SE might make ._.

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Exactly why i like the idea of Leves, but they shouldn't make it the main thing to do. We have dungeons on the way and in my opinion, they should offer good SP from 25-35 at least, but then again, they may be changing the algorithms of how much sp is needed between ranks after removal of fatigue system.