How To Fix Summoners

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Originally Posted by xxalucard

Instead of talking smack why not just record a video? Watching how someone plays is one of the easiest ways to tell how skilled they are.

Playing 2000 matches is technically more "pvp experience" but it doesn't mean "better player." You can't level down and the matchmaking system is random-- especially when you solo queue and are playing disorganized teams while in full pvp gear.

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Already making a video that I announced on why our class is broken. Stay tuned friend.

Also I usually face 3s in solo que with randoms and carry then no problem. Once again, ask people in my data center. I dont come on forumns make something up hype myself up to look good. I started this thread with an opinion and facts that showed they needed nerf. People kept chipping away that you cant crit 2400 and its impossible for almost 2 pages of this thread got tired and waited for my next high crit which was 2500. Now people want videos which i was already making...Dont worry ill stream again soon!

After these last two matches I'm afraid I might make the dj lovedrop massacre highlight reel.

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Originally Posted by Deca

After these last two matches I'm afraid I might make the dj lovedrop massacre highlight reel.

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I already have the videos I just suck at making them so friend is doing it for me. Right now im just taking screen shots of the next 5 matches to show what each game is like... but im afraid someone will say numbers mean nothing something something something...

These were pvp matches 5 solo que (cept 2 cause ques slowed down so i grped with turtle love for faster ques)

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Interesting how low the damage is from the summoners on the other team.

I'll wait for the video. Though the screenshots you posted yourself pretty much prove either:

1) it takes a good player to do as much damage
2) you are way better geared than them
3) they are some sort of disorganized mess with a horrible healer
4) people on the other team (and/or your team) are terrible, especially the dps


there are 1000 variables in every pvp match that can affect the DPS output, namely player skill & gear.

I mean look at your second-to-last screenshot, you have a monk on your team that only did 1k damage...the SUMMONER (overpowered class) on the other team only did 2k damage....

in one of the first screenshots, the drg on your team only did 468 damage...total... and died 4 times. you were the only dps alive the majority of the match, so wouldn't you expect to do nearly all of it? you also don't show how long that match was, which i assume was fairly long with all the deaths and ressing going on. I mean, for someone who kills people in 2 seconds, you'd think there wouldn't be enough time for 3+ resses.

Think im done talking on this thread. People just make new room for holes to find ways to keep summoners overpowered or whatever the cause this forumn was to give my opinion and facts behind it. People questioned the fact that i did a 2400 enkindle crit. Said it was impossible and im lieing. Then i post an enkindle crit of 2517 or something then people went another route. Im done posting on this thread its just full of trolls lol

While I agree summoner burst is insane, so is the burst of bards (x2) when synced right.

Currently I am getting quite used to summoners if you preemptively begin to esuna when dots are being applied.

My only other issue is the stacking disease healing reduction with warriors healing reduction. A 300 cure 2 is pitiful and then on top of that you can't cast while being hit makes that utterly painful. You either use your purify to get rid of all of those debuffs (assuming you can't esuna or leeches due to possibly 10 debuffs on you at that time) or need to save benediction for that point.

Also, the other silly thing is double Heavy. I've used stone 1 on someone when they were Diseased from a summoner ally. The weight effect even stacks. This should be fixed also.

Thats my thoughts x.x

Those are my thoughts.

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Originally Posted by Djlovedrop

Think im done talking on this thread. People just make new room for holes to find ways to keep summoners overpowered or whatever the cause this forumn was to give my opinion and facts behind it. People questioned the fact that i did a 2400 enkindle crit. Said it was impossible and im lieing. Then i post an enkindle crit of 2517 or something then people went another route. Im done posting on this thread its just full of trolls lol

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This kind of thing happens in PvP in every game.
People will defend what they play, no matter what's wrong with it.

To be fair, with no ranking system/matchmaking, screenshots can only show so much (mostly that you do a ton of damage compared to everybody else).
That said, it's really not hard to figure out summoners are over the top at the moment, but you know, that'd mean admitting it. :l

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Originally Posted by Djlovedrop

Think im done talking on this thread. People just make new room for holes to find ways to keep summoners overpowered or whatever the cause this forumn was to give my opinion and facts behind it. People questioned the fact that i did a 2400 enkindle crit. Said it was impossible and im lieing. Then i post an enkindle crit of 2517 or something then people went another route. Im done posting on this thread its just full of trolls lol

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If you look at the other teams Summoner's your doing in average 5.3x the damage they are. That means either you are a ranked 30 Player with ilvl 70 gear going up against low rank under geared teams or a horrible pug these number do not suggest the Summoner is overpowered it suggest DJ Lovedrop a fully ilvl 70 PvP geared Summoner is going up against under geared players.

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Originally Posted by Quackley

This kind of thing happens in PvP in every game.
People will defend what they play, no matter what's wrong with it.

To be fair, with no ranking system/matchmaking, screenshots can only show so much (mostly that you do a ton of damage compared to everybody else).
That said, it's really not hard to figure out summoners are over the top at the moment, but you know, that'd mean admitting it. :l

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Quackley you must not have looked at the other Summoner's damage DJ was doing 5.3x the damage they were doing and the other Summoner's were averaging around 3,728.33 damage DJ was averaging 19,760.667 damage so with that how can you say Summoner is over powered when the average Summoner is getting around 4,000 damage at the most. Summoners's aren't over powered there are just high ranked ilvl 70 pvp Summoners facing other teams that are low ranked and still in pve gear with no morale.