Players will be able to earn 20k gil per day

Dailies aren't the only way to make money, sure. But they are the HIGHEST generator in the game as of this patch. What I mean by that is outside of the main story line and side quests, this is the games gil fountain (introducing gil into the economy and not just trading it around).

I don't get some people's logic. When the game launched everyone and their mother cried wolf because repairs cost more than you could possibly make. The economy was crashing, and imo, it's still crap. Now they introduce a true gil fountain into the game and people complain about daily grinds.

I guess it's impossible to make some people happy. I for one welcome the change. You don't have to daily grind, as there are ways of shuffling money around so you can take money from other people that did daily grind, no problem there.

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Originally Posted by Methos76

i make roughly 30-50k a day. That doesn't include leves...fates...or dungeons. At this rate i should be homeless for just a few more months right? lol
Just look for a park bench or a ditch to sleep in...for free!:cool:

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ill sell you a cardboard box for 2mill thats half the price of the bullshit there going to sell you on the cheapest server 90 days later:)

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Originally Posted by GYX

It was by no means intended for FC's to get it on day 1, or even for everyone to get the top spot with the biggest house around yet seems that all complainers point to the fact they can't do so. Typical "reward me now" argument of this generation.

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Stop throwing this strawman argument up. It's fallacious and you only use it because you have no real defence for this. It has nothing to do with everyone wanting the biggest house around. If you aren't rich-as-hell legacy and play on a legacy server the lowest tier housing is completely out of reach. How many people do you know that want to treat their gametime like a job 7 days a week, for months, in Indentured servitude to buy the lowest form of housing?

I approve of this. This creates a large influx of Gil into the economy. Everybody wins in this.

Not only does it mean that we get a base 20k, but that means Everybody in the game is getting more spending money. More Spending money = more Buyers. More Buyers = More money.

The markets going to inflate a bit, but since housing prices are staying where they are for awhile, inflation (particularly massive inflation) is a good thing. Everyone is getting a steady reliable source of income; instead of just people who know how to play the market.

And for those of use who are already proficient in certain areas of the market, we are going to do even better. This is a nice boon to the economy. I am less upset about housing prices with this.

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Originally Posted by Resultsmayvary

I don't think you have a firm grasp on what slavery means...

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Oh I think I do, I'm expecting FC systems similar to those in lineage II to appear in FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by TawdryClay

This isn't the way I will be making my gil. I rarely play wow these days thanks to an endless daily grind. 20k a day is chump change compared to the gil you can make selling materials on the MB, even with RMT competition. There are plenty of crafts and gathers than can reel you in some clinks, get creative, learn a job, farm some mats, makes some sales. If you are good at making gil, offer the people in your fc who are not some advice.

This doesn't have to be your only way of obtaining gil. my daily intake of gil is roughly 80-180k right now and I know people who are making even more than that with spirit bonding.

EDIT: Not bragging, just offering examples of ways to make gil and how much you can potentially make, no need to be an ass.

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Completely agree with farming crafting melding I made 10mil this month so far. Not bragging either just saying your all so concerned about the prices and making gil its really not hard at all to do so.

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Originally Posted by Greywizaqrd

I don't even know what FC housing is all about

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Fallacious is thinking you will be able to obtain it with little to no effort. The prices are not out of reach, just not possible for casuals to get it during first week (shocking). This is not a feature intended for one person, so stop putting it like it is. This is a feature that has collaboration written all over it. Just look how they planned this for even a 3 month wait time for a first time investment.

If down the road individual player housing comes with this kind of prices, you and all complainers will have all the right to complain. As it is now, you are all just whiners.

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Originally Posted by GYX

Fallacious is thinking you will be able to obtain it with little to no effort. The prices are not out of reach, just not possible for casuals to get it during first week (shocking). This is not a feature intended for one person, so stop putting it like it is. This is a feature that has collaboration written all over it. Just look how they planned this for even a 3 month wait time for a first time investment.

If down the road individual player housing comes with this kind of prices, you and all complainers will have all the right to complain. As it is now, you are all just whiners.

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True dat!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Darkshneider

I think your over exagerating on the depreciation on the philos.it will go down,sure,but to the point where its near worthless i highly doubt it.we will see in 2-3 weeks
mats sell at 15k in balmung and i still make that amount.so it would be like,90-170k aroundish in sargatanas? thats not too bad either.

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On Coeurl I buy philo mats for 7k right now. I still sell the il70 gear for 150-200k. This patch just means you will also be buying vanya breeches and such for 150-200k from me.

With the nerf to HQ crafting leve, there will steadily be a decline in high-end crafter competition as people can't just level 1-50 overnight, but they will still level DoW/DoM overnight. To me this means (with new recipes added) more people buying and less people making it, but more people supplying philo mats.

Costs will go down for crafters of philo gear, allowing people to potentially SB (in CT) il70 gear for 100% TIV materias. Those materia will sell for PVP gear and allow for a steady source of income.

If a FC supplies philo mats to their crafters to make IL70 for SB(instead of selling the philo mats to make gil), a FC of 8 people can easily sell those TIV materia and buy a house.

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Originally Posted by Lots of People

I make way over 20k/day selling stuff.

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The money you make from selling stuff is different than money made from quests and kills. That money gets taxed at the market and comes from other players, so it's a net drop in the global currency.

The money from battles and quests is money from thin air, this is a huge part of what you make selling your stuff.

If large chunks of money go to buy houses, that's money that vanishes from the economy, and your profits will go down as a result.