Coil mode for main story

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Originally Posted by Gandora

The epeen y'know! We are better, we have better skills, you are trash so you don't deserve an easy mode, just get better at/learn how to play the the game!

Onyxys, you're truely nice to defend the players who "arn't skilled enough" from these idiots point of view (geez whenever I read/write that I feel like such an idiot, i'm happy to be a casual..)

we should praise the sun in their honour & kneel down!

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Due to this epeen story being thrown left and right the games are becoming so unchallenging that we'll be left with games where the only thing to do is hold a button to watch a big long cutscene.
And these idiots are able to play a game (ya, play, because we are not solving a Millennium Prize Problem here) that "you casuals" (as you define yourself) aren't able to. Funny when so many people lowered this game to a mindless buttons smashing level.

I wouldn't mind a Easy mode DF version at all. Maybe drop like 50 Myth per turn completed and make it so it has it's own lock out. That way normal Coil players could do it for myth when they're locked out of the regular coil.

This would allow everyone to see the content of the game, while keeping the tradition that the best gear only goes to the most dedicated players.

Easy mode is coming ... in 2.2 (for turn 1-5)
Happy now?

If they do add an easy mode, I hope they keep all of the same mechanics. Just make the bosses abilities do less damage and give the bosses less HP. That way, people could use the easy mode as a way to practice for the real thing.

- Easy mode.
- Same mechanics/less damage/Less HP.
- No gear/Phil and Myth rewards only.

Why would anyone have a problem with that?

People sure don't get the point on a story mode. It's not about difficulty, because even if at some point you can just solo turn 1-5, by the time you can do that nobody would be interested in running Coil and you'd have a very difficult time satisfying the 'need 8 guys' requirement, so even Coil is so easy a single person can beat it, you still won't be able to see the story in it because by the time you can do that, you'd have a hard time finding 7 guys to just join you. This is the same reason why getting stuff like Cape Westwind or Chimera done is harder over time even though gear level ought to be constantly increasing, because people no longer want to do this stuff.

The story probably doesn't matter that much simply because most story tied to raid sucks anyway so you're not missing anything. But there's still a significant part of the player that have enough faith in the game to deliver a good story and want to make sure. The only way a story mode would work is that it's made into a one person instance where random overpowered NPCs just run over everything while you do some trivial task and get some trivial reward at the end.

If you can't do coil to find out, then you failed and died, game over, thus can't see the rest of the story, because you died and aren't in the story anyways.

Getting some gear from Crystal Tower when it launches will help you ease into Coil better due to the current gear gap. If the gear doesn't help, you could always wait until they inevitably make it easier. If Coil didn't have the level of difficulty that it currently does there would be a group of folks that would no longer play this game and I'm sure it'd gain the stigma in the greater gaming community that "FFXIV has no challenging elements."

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

It seems to me, that many players (hard-core players too) afraid of other, more casual players, will be able to chase Coil and see the lore, to know the story in easy mode. Why do you afraid? Is the Coil story your own property and you dont want to give it to anyone else?

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Except it doesn't need to and shouldnt be created. Just get better at the game. No, it's not anyone's "property", but neither is it out of your reach to participate in. Part of the fun of beating a challenging dungeon is seeing the next part of a story. Why would anyone be "afraid" of people seeing more of the story. Your logic astounds me in its fallacy.

Ever played Ninja Gaiden on the NES? It was one of the first games ever to utilize cinematic cutscenes. The game was extremely hard but your reward for beating the level was you'd get to see the next part of the story. It made the game very satisfying and the reward made it such that the game pissed you off just enough that you didn't want to give up.

The game is easy enough as it is, if you want to see the rest of the story, you need to buckle down and get your video game senses going. It is not beyond your ability to learn how to clear the more challenging content. You can beat the higher level content, stop pretending you can't. You just have to learn some strategy, you can't just 1 2 3 1 1 1 2 1 3 your way through it.

making an easy mode will just facilitate players not learning more skills and developing their character. If all you want is story with no challenging gameplay, thats what movies are for.

Here's the easy mode coil for story.

Youtube

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Originally Posted by ashikenshin

that you play claiming to be hardcore. so which is it? is this game hardcore like you or is it dumb then why are you playing? see how stupid your position is?

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Reread a few times before replying, unless you're grasping at straws.

I mean that a lot of people said that this game was too easy, but now people have difficulty to play it. I wonder if we "hardcore" are too intelligent or the rest is just too dumb.