The fans will be here when it's all said and done

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

Now...I don't want this game to fail but I am not going to blindly defend it and say its so much fun and there is so much to do!! It is going in an OK direction...but the devs really need to open their eyes to what is missing and what players are asking for. Like I keep saying though...gonna give it a year or so and see what happens. XD

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Don't know what is giving you any glimmer of hope that the devs are going to change the framework of this within a year. While in not so many words, this game has always been touted as a game for casual players with some hardcore elements. FATEs are this game's version of open world content. If you haven't seen past this throughout beta up until now...well, enjoy giving SE that subscription for the next year. And while my views may sound negative, I just want to follow this up with I actually enjoy the game for what it is.

Monday? Myth reset.

"Here we go again.. time to bounce between 2 dungeons for a few hours."

"Damn another week of waiting to get a myth piece..."

"Let's cap Philos n stuff maybe for your other Jobs?"

"Wonder if the Coil static will have a spot open up this week."

"Wonder if I can organize a competent Coil PUG this week."

"Wonder if I'll get to do Coil this week."

"Should I waste the time leveling another class.. again?"

"Let's try WP without a healer."

"Well flub-a-dub I guess Netflix and gathering it is then."

edit: I really like Final Fantasy games - but this happens to me either on Monday; or my game time pans out this way by Wednesday. I enjoy playing but I think "stale" is a fair word to label FFXIV with at the moment. I like making alt characters just to mess around on at this point. I get to level 10~30 then delete it because... well frankly it's boring to continue, and boring to grind an endgame I've already been grinding at.

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Originally Posted by Dhex

Monday? Myth reset.

"Here we go again.. time to bounce between 2 dungeons for a few hours."

"Damn another week of waiting to get a myth piece..."

"Let's cap Philos n stuff maybe for your other Jobs?"

"Wonder if the Coil static will have a spot open up this week."

"Wonder if I can organize a competent Coil PUG this week."

"Wonder if I'll get to do Coil this week."

"Should I waste the time leveling another class.. again?"

"Let's try WP without a healer."

"Well flub-a-dub I guess Netflix and gathering it is then."

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Your way more active than I am I just do coil then done. at 4 hours a month, the game is definitely not meeting the MMO standard of 15 bucks a month. (if you have the 14.99 plan) per hour / $$

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Originally Posted by Laiyenu

Your way more active than I am I just do coil then done. at 4 hours a month, the game is definitely not meeting the MMO standard of 15 bucks a month. (if you have the 14.99 plan) per hour / $$

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Same here, I do Coil 1-5 then don't bother with the game until next Monday.

Can someone fill me in on what hardcore means today? Meaning keeps changing every day I read these forums.

It seems like since BG beat Coil, uploaded a video and Twister got nerfed, a lot of people turned into a hardcore, "too good for this game" type.

Before that, Twintania was bugged and SE was making stuff unbeatable to make people keep paying.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Can someone fill me in on what hardcore means today? Meaning keeps changing every day I read these forums.

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I've always felt that hardcore meant the way you spent your time, not how much you spend. I know people who chat for 8 hours, walk around town or just leisure play, but then people who raid for 2 hours straight full preparation with coms. Guess which one is hardcore?

The idea that you have to play x amount of time to be hardcore is silly. I know people who play less then I do but have cleared turn 5, and I (used) to play 5-7 hours a day.

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Originally Posted by Arale

I've always felt that hardcore meant the way you spent your time, not how much you spend. I know people who chat for 8 hours, walk around town or just leisure play, but then people who raid for 2 hours straight full preparation with coms. Guess which one is hardcore?

The idea that you have to play x amount of time to be hardcore is silly. I know people who play less then I do but have cleared turn 5, and I (used) to play 5-7 hours a day.

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This is what I always thought hardcore meant as well. I mean, I play like 6 hrs a day and most of the time most of the weekends and I don't consider myself hardcore, but sometimes I do hardcore stuff like grind fates for 10 hrs straight(once in a blue moon), or join Titan DF for a few hours just to practice the fight etc etc. That's some hardcore ****. LOL

Final Fantasy XIV is made for people who work 8+hrs a day and only have 2hrs a night at most to play not or the content locust that play 8+hrs and then complain about lack of content developer's would go bankrupt if they catered to that crowd. I've been playing for 3 months and I got my Relic a few weeks ago and only just this weekend just completed Coil Turn 1 on my only lvl 50 Summoner so when people come on complaining about lack of content this early after release I don't understand where there coming form. Maybe after 6 months of playing an MMO and there is no substantial updates and no news on future updates people have the right to complain but now most complaints are baseless.

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Originally Posted by Akiza

Final Fantasy XIV is made for people who work 8+hrs a day and only have 2hrs a night at most to play not or the content locust that play 8+hrs and then complain about lack of content.

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If this game was catering to suit you, then it wont last long at all........

Think about it. The fact it took you 3 month to get relic and do coil T1. That mean, you dont know how to effectively lv up, dont know how to effectively gears up, and you shouldnt use yourself as an example of the standard 2 hour play. In 2 hour per day and with my know how, i can get to where you are with a new character in about 2week.

This game is serverely lacking in contents. Coil/myth cap, there is nothing else to do beside those 2. Even GW2 1st release has more content and things to do end game than FF14.