Wanderer's Palace Discrimation

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Originally Posted by Reyki

for ppl who reject monks , i made with a good team ( pld + blm + whm + me (monk)) 14 - 15 min runs , i have a lot of crit and SS due to my hq 70 gear ....u need to have a good aoe cycle and a good tp management to do that .

thanks to blm lb and good tank + healer + mantra ; it's kinda doable ^^. dunno if i can make it faster with pro players.

and to avoid discrimination i make my own groups :D

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You just go carried by the WHM/BLM.

I have run 16-17 minute WPs, and that is with everything going perfectly, no wipes, and the second boss barely spawning his second set of adds

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Originally Posted by Sosuke

how geared do you have to be to do one of these runs? like whole group of relic +1s or a mix a DL/AK gear and primal weps with 1-2 relics int he group could do it? even like a 25 min run?

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8 minute runs are pretty much full relic +1 with mostly allagan/myth gear. 15 minutes can be done with relic and full DL (or equivalent). 25 minute runs involve showing up in w/e and pushing buttons.

I just don't understand the need to get the weekly ToM cap in under 2 hours...

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

I just don't understand the need to get the weekly ToM cap in under 2 hours...

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Money farming, for one thing.

I see the need for speed but this is about as trivial as complaining that say, mining makes more money than botany.

You literally are not barred from ANY of the game's content except this tiny sliver of current FOTM speed runs that really don't impact you in any way.

I will say though that AoE balance should be looked at a bit, as well as resource (tp vs mp) balance.

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

I just don't understand the need to get the weekly ToM cap in under 2 hours...

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I don't understand people who wouldn't want to get something done quickly if they have the option to.

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Originally Posted by Subucnimorning

I don't understand people who wouldn't want to get something done quickly if they have the option to.

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I do, it's called relaxing and enjoying the game and the people you're playing with. That's the whole point of MMOs. To have fun playing a game with other people. If I didn't want that I wouldn't be playing an MMO, I'd be playing a single player game like Skyrim or Baulder's Gate.

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Originally Posted by GameGeeks

I do, it's called relaxing and enjoying the game and the people you're playing with. That's the whole point of MMOs. To have fun playing a game with other people. If I didn't want that I wouldn't be playing an MMO, I'd be playing a single player game like Skyrim or Baulder's Gate.

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But tome farming is not fun. If you've played seriously, it's an instance you've done 200+ times by now, and you just want to get it over with so you can go do the actually fun content (Coil).

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Originally Posted by Bluewhite

http://gae.cavelis.net/view/AC819B4E...F7080F1F4083E6

Can do it in 8 min.

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Not to be that guy, but 8:33 is not the world record as they say it is.

Understandable, though, without a website to archive the best runs. Hopefully someday... as speedrunning is quite an addicting distraction from Twistertania.

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Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk

But tome farming is not fun. If you've played seriously, it's an instance you've done 200+ times by now, and you just want to get it over with so you can go do the actually fun content (Coil).

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Only way you'd need to run it 200+ times is if you get DL for multiple classes. And at that point it' your choice to do that. Especially when you consider you only get enough Mythology Tomes a week to focus on one class for those. Some with Allagen gear from Coil. Otherwise you only need to run it about 70 times to get full DL plus the item needed for your relic. And I'm not sick of the dungeon since I have a lot of fun running it with my FC. Should be done with the last 24 runs I need sometime this week.