SE's Stance on Pillars in Dark Devices Area?

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

So we can expect a ninja patch just like what you did with Dark Devices for 2.1 got it

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The funny thing is players are just bringing it upon themselves by not trying to get certain things fixed lol. (As in using and abusing but not reporting it.)

I love when people rant about terrain "exploits."

Does anyone remember killing the Dynamis Lord? Fighting him near a ledge, casters/ranged on a lower level (Or was it upper level? Been so long I forget) so they don't get hit by AOE's? Did anyone rage that this was an exploit? Doubt it. Did it all the time in two shells I was in and no one batted an eye.

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Originally Posted by necrosis

I love when people rant about terrain "exploits."

Does anyone remember killing the Dynamis Lord?

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This was working in an intended way.

Now, dragging certain NMs in abyssea to a certain part of a cliff that negates ALL damage even from the one TANKING it? that is a terrain exploit.

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

While standing in this position and battling against the enemy isn't against the rules per say, and we don't plan on taking any action against those that do this, being able to play this way is not in line with the spirit of battle! We'd like to ask that you please submit this as a bug report and let the team know if you find anymore places like this so it can be adjusted.

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Can I submit all terrain as an exploit then? because this can be used on every single mob that can be brought within the bounds of terrain that can be used as such. This bug isn't just used on the late Twintania(which may or may not be fixed), but it can be used on all mobs where you can used the terrain to your advantage.

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Originally Posted by necrosis

I love when people rant about terrain "exploits."

Does anyone remember killing the Dynamis Lord? Fighting him near a ledge, casters/ranged on a lower level (Or was it upper level? Been so long I forget) so they don't get hit by AOE's? Did anyone rage that this was an exploit? Doubt it. Did it all the time in two shells I was in and no one batted an eye.

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Are you completely missing the point? The Dynamis Lord could move. You were not immune from him on the ledge. You mean to tell me that no DD's stand outside of redcircles when they have a tank?

What is a little weird in this game is in most MMO's mobs just walk straight up ledges that they can't walk around. I am sure with a little effort I could find threads like this in most MMO's that were patched. I believe the wording I remember is pathfinding.

Actually, if Dynamis Lord moved you may as well called it a wipe. Every strategy I heard for Dynamis Lord involved copious use of Stun, which clearly doesn't involve using the environment. No, a boss that was glitched like this was Absolute Virtue, and they patched that.

In XI mobs would just go "lol" and walk right up the side of a mountain to punch you in the face if you tried to use terrain to get away from them.

Anyone who can't see that this is a simple pathing bug/exploit is deluding themselves. Being immune to enemies by standing on something is obviously not by design, and I'm frankly a bit surprised they won't be cracking down on pathing exploits like this.

people who continue to call it an exploit when a dev came in and said it isnt against the rules are deluding themselves.

its cheap, and i dont condone it, but its not an exploit because its not against the rules and its not a bug. its just how the game works. its on SE to fix, hopefully soon.
before someone says "its a bug because they asked us to bug report it", well they dont have a "dumb game design report" so yeah, a bug report is the best way to call it to their attention but it isnt technically a bug.

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Originally Posted by Losian

Anyone who can't see that this is a simple pathing bug/exploit is deluding themselves. Being immune to enemies by standing on something is obviously not by design, and I'm frankly a bit surprised they won't be cracking down on pathing exploits like this.

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Yes because using gun to shoot knife user and take no damage at all is an exploit. I guess the US military UAV is also an exploit since the guys controlling it take no damage at all.

why the h would they put jump in this game at all when scrub want to play it on 2d platform with only X and Y axis and no Z.