Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

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Originally Posted by Malthir

O my dear friend, brace yourself, for it's about to get much worse.

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Are they going to clone her and I'll have to be hancuffed to TWO Wuk Lamats?...
By this point I wouldn't even be surprised...

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

Pray return to the Wuk Lamat!

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Pray return Wuk Lamat!

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Originally Posted by Regis_Paran

Are they going to clone her and I'll have to be hancuffed to TWO Wuk Lamats?...
By this point I wouldn't even be surprised...

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Shhhh
Don't give them ideas now !

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Originally Posted by lolnotacat

I wanna like Bakool Ja Ja so much, but the way he acted up until the last part of the succession ceremony is unforgivable. And I don't mean just his actions. I mean the way he was written. He was a cackling idiot who didn't seem to have a hint of remorse or introspection (aside from one or two very quick and easily missed moments) for his actions and seemed to revel in being evil for the sake of it. I know it's not great to have two stoic antagonists, but that's what he needed to be. His character should've shown hints remorse for everything he did, but ultimately, he did was what he believed was best for his people. It could of been his sycophant lackey that was the cackling menace instead of him. Instead of seeing a tragic antagonist who was turned by Wuk Lamat's talk no jutsu, all I see is the laughing moron clearly enjoyed setting Valigarmanda free.

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I kinda agree.
I like his development and his story. I think it shows in retrospect that he was deperate
The problem is more that the reason behind it (the history of his people) was badly written.
The concept is great but it was resolved too fast.
The story says that he has to answer fro his crimes but it doesn‘t but at least he actually has character flaws.

In my opinion it would have been better if they cut some of the story with Wuk Lamat and gave it to him.
Made it so we had some time with him and help him understand.
In my honest opinion. He would have made a better central figure then Wuk Lamat in character development and finally becoming dawnservant with our understanding and helping him along the way. He has character flaws that are actual flaws and not just tropes make a character seem cute.

I'm at the end of my tether I feel so utterly bereft. I've been trying to hard to see positives and I still have the last zone to do but my patience is just wearing so thin. I cannot believe how bad this expac story is, it feels like a bad dream. The whole thing is just entirely ruined. I can't believe they dropped the ball and shit the bed this badly. I have had 2 nice hours in the western town out of this entire miserable experience.

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Originally Posted by Regis_Paran

Are they going to clone her and I'll have to be hancuffed to TWO Wuk Lamats?...
By this point I wouldn't even be surprised...

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I can tell you, but it's a massive spoiler, I shall hide it behind the click of a button

Warning Do not press the button below unless you want the end spoiled. Warning

The last zone we're with Wuk she's literally ever present, at one point the MSQ makes us take her on a shopping trip, I kid you not. Then at the final crescendo of the story we are going one on one with the boss and as the fight end, in what I'm describing as getting Wuk'd. Wuk breaks down the walls of Reality/Containment comes flying in last shots the boss then does all the talking in the final cutscene.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

I kinda agree.
I like his development and his story. I think it shows in retrospect that he was deperate
The problem is more that the reason behind it (the history of his people) was badly written.
The concept is great but it was resolved too fast.
The story says that he has to answer fro his crimes but it doesn‘t but at least he actually has character flaws.

In my opinion it would have been better if they cut some of the story with Wuk Lamat and gave it to him.
Made it so we had some time with him and help him understand.
In my honest opinion. He would have made a better central figure then Wuk Lamat in character development and finally becoming dawnservant with our understanding and helping him along the way. He has character flaws that are actual flaws and not just tropes make a character seem cute.

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I generally agree. He still needed re-characterization to be likable I think, but he could've made a more interesting Dawnservant. Between the indomitable first promise, and his siblings with legendary godslayers on their sides, Bakool Ja Ja could've been the desperate underdog. If he showed remorse but a desperate resolve for actually constantly being behind, releasing Valigarmanda could be more forgivable. Finally, after getting stomped by us and seeing we still did things the "right way" he slowly learns that might doesn't necessarily make right and his insecurities about being blessed start slipping through the cracks more and more, finally coming to us on his own when we get to the area with the last keystone.

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Originally Posted by Malthir

I can tell you, but it's a massive spoiler, I shall hide it behind the click of a button

Warning Do not press the button below unless you want the end spoiled. Warning

The last zone we're with Wuk she's literally ever present, at one point the MSQ makes us take her on a shopping trip, I kid you not. Then at the final crescendo of the story we are going one on one with the boss and as the fight end, in what I'm describing as getting Wuk'd. Wuk breaks down the walls of Reality/Containment comes flying in last shots the boss then does all the talking in the final cutscene.

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For those that played GW1, Wuk is our much much worse version of Kormir. I actually liked Kormir and Lyse... I don't know how they could possibly write a character that is worse than some of the most maligned characters in the history of those two games.. but geez luiz did they do it in spades...

Some data from discord

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WUKLAMAT lines=647 words=7065
SPHENE lines=254 words=3472
ERENVILLE lines=160 words=2042
BAKOOLJAJA lines=139 words=1792
KOANA lines=131 words=1822
CAHCIUA lines=122 words=1741
KRILE lines=118 words=1294
GULOOLJAJA lines=115 words=1560
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GRAHATIA lines=62 words=922
OTIS lines=56 words=733
ALPHINAUD lines=47 words=548
VORPORLOR lines=40 words=515
KETENRAMM lines=39 words=484
GULOOLJA lines=39 words=226
ZEREELJA lines=36 words=435
THANCRED lines=35 words=429
HUNMURRUK lines=35 words=478
YSHTOLA lines=34 words=486
ROBOR lines=31 words=496
GURFURLUR lines=27 words=451
ZEKOWA lines=27 words=275
WIHUWTE lines=27 words=338
ALAYLA lines=27 words=348
SAREELJA lines=25 words=280
SHENZA lines=22 words=267
PEPOANE lines=22 words=270
KEMAKKA lines=21 words=204
WAWLIKA lines=19 words=306
NAMIKKA lines=18 words=225
ESTINIEN lines=15 words=163
SHALE lines=15 words=229
WUKEVU lines=14 words=266
URIANGER lines=12 words=192
ZURMURWUR lines=12 words=130
SOLUTIONNFIGHTER lines=10 words=107

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7.0
Wuk Lamat has 254% of Sphene's voice lines
Wuk Lamat has 404% of Erenville's voice lines

4.0
Lyse has 189% of Hien's voice lines
Lyse has 205% of Alphinaud's voice lines
(that includes Lyse's narration)

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Judging by this comparison...yeah..Wuk Lamat was a self insert from the writer...100 percent