New Jobs Gated Behind Completion of 2.0 Story?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

and games like that wouldnt cut it these days.

Would you prefer to be forced into the instance and then have to wait an undetermined amount of time for the 7 other people to join?

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No, I would prefer to be forced into the instance, and if I failed I failed entirely and the world changes because of my failure. Some times I shouldn't mess with things I don't understand and the game teaches me that through my failures and mistakes.

I would of prefered having to fight it alone, and possibly failing. Then having to find a way to get back inside with help.

Now THAT would have been a good story.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

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Just feeding you here, but for someone who is pro solo - you sure took on that challenge with a lot of schs. Seems like you need friends to win fights.

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Just feeding you here, but for someone who is pro solo - you sure took on that challenge with a lot of schs. Seems like you need friends to win fights.

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Who is the troll now? You made a completely off-topic post that has nothing to do with the thread to attempt to spring hatred from me. A quite humorous one too. I simply proved to someone that something could be done in a unique way. I didn't really care about the score I got in attempting that. I don't care about "how easy" I made it, I simply cared about getting said job done. I did it, and proved them wrong, the end.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

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You kind of lost the bet - don't know how you proved anyone wrong. Just shows how much you can't go a minute without feeling like your some kind of douche.
But I wasn't going off topic, your preaching how you wanted the game to be more solo.
I questioned your previous post which shows that you couldn't do it solo/ with randoms.
You went int with a group of friends.
For someone who wants more immersion by going at the trial solo.
You really don't follow what you preach.

Just taking something away from this mess, but having higher level solo content does sound like fun. At worst one would have to tailor it by role.

And yes I'm aware of a lot of the content requires party content, but some of the fun I've had in mmos was in taking on things by myself too. There's a lack of that rush in eorzea currently.

Just like NIN wasn't gated behind the Yugiri plotline, I'm willing to bet none of the new 3 jobs will be really gated behind 2.55 -- perhaps some quests for them, but not acquiring the job. I think it telling that nowhere in the descriptions of the new jobs does it ever mention the main city of Ishgard, and DRK are 'pariahs in their own lands' -- a non-Ishgard base seems most likely for them. AST could easily be outside Ishgard as people from Sharlayan could, like Yugiri, leave their homes to impart this job. Even Machinist could have a building/smelting/creating Skysteel manufactory outside Ishgard (less pollution, too). I think SE wants these new jobs as a selling point to draw in new players - good business sense // marketing them as a major component then locking them behind the main story isn't newbie friendly -- and we saw from NIN that SE is very open to glossing over plot in order to fulfill a customer desire.

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

Just like NIN wasn't gated behind the Yugiri plotline, I'm willing to bet none of the new 3 jobs will be really gated behind 2.55 -- perhaps some quests for them, but not acquiring the job.

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It's already confirmed you require 2.55 completed to unlock new jobs.

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Originally Posted by SlyTribal

It's already confirmed you require 2.55 completed to unlock new jobs.

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It is confirmed you need Ishgard to get the job quests -- it isn't confirmed that the new jobs are gotten via 'job quests' initially. They could easily forego having the job acquisition being part of the whole "job quests" and relegate those to just job skills. Besides - this is SE // something 'confirmed' today can be an "Oops, what we meant was..." later. Either way, it doesn't even matter for almost all of us so I wonder why people care so much or even desire it so badly to be locked -- it isn't like we're affected, just the new players, who I think SE would want to retain.

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

It is confirmed you need Ishgard to get the job quests -- it isn't confirmed that the new jobs are gotten via 'job quests' initially.

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Yoshi specifically mentioned last Live Letter that the new jobs are unlocked inside Ishgard, and so 2.55 is a requirement for it.

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

It is confirmed you need Ishgard to get the job quests -- it isn't confirmed that the new jobs are gotten via 'job quests' initially. They could easily forego having the job acquisition being part of the whole "job quests" and relegate those to just job skills.

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There will be quests to learn job skills, and it's possible that some of those could form a separate story from the ones that initially unlock the job, just like how our current job quests form a separate story only peripherally related to the story in the class quests that precede it. But I'm not sure how the quests that unlock and initially introduce us to a job wouldn't fall under the category of "job quests". At the very least, they'd be part of our job quests, even if they're followed by other job quests elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre

Besides - this is SE // something 'confirmed' today can be an "Oops, what we meant was..." later.

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True. It's already happened on this very issue. They've made a complete reversal of their earlier position that the jobs would be available regardless of story progression. Now people are waiting to see whether they'll flip back again.