Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

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Originally Posted by MrMordio

I wanted to share my character as well. Mine is Midlander face 3, which looks strange at first in the character creator, but with some customization creates an expressive, wide-eyed babe with a cute set of puffy cheeks. If you look at this side-by-side (Original left, benchmark right) the face is overall less round and more narrow. The eyes are less defined, and the nose (glad they fixed the tip) looks like it goes deeper into the face, but I'm pretty sure that's because my cute, round face was toned down. Maybe some people consider the round face and puffy cheeks to be jarring or unattractive, but I personally like them.

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I also see that the eyes, the shape of the nose, the nasolabial area and the shape of the chin have changed.

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Originally Posted by AirisRay

I'm so sorry to hear this! Please, don't take to heart what some people say here (and not only here) and don't get upset about it in any way! That is their goal and if you get upset about it, then they have achieved their goal.
Some people wrote to me yesterday that they were afraid to even post here after reading several threads... They were afraid that they would be bullied and gaslighted.
I almost never visited this forum. I spend time in other communities that are full of very kind and considerate people and honestly, I could not even imagine that there was so much anger on this forum.
But, really, it’s very important to remember why we are here. We are here to draw attention to the problem, not to feed the trolls :) Let them sit hungry :)

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thank you again, i am happy what we have here people like you and like other kind people! :3

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Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene

thank you again, i am happy what we have here people like you and like other kind people! :3

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AirisRay is good people. And you're definitely not alone in your observations <3

Posted my feedback on JP side. I guess this is the best place to provide feedback for ENG side so I gonna post here too just in case.

Tldr; Overall I am happy with the update. For my character a tiny fix around the eyes will be nice.

My character is Hyur Midlander with Face 3. I tried to keep the lighting and camera angle as close as possible. I never touch the gamma or lighting settings it should be default.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLI3B9ha...name=4096x4096

Overall I have no problem with the new smooth look, I think I can get used to them. The new textures are nice and is an upgrade.
However there's definitely something off that made it look very different from the original, like the personality didn't match. And I deduced that it's the eyes.

>>>The current one has very clear eyelid line.
>>>The 7.0 version eyelid line got toned down. Just some small wrinkles.

The difference is subtle but it does give a different impression for the character and personality.
At first I thought it could only be the type 2 eye I uses, so I tried comparing every eye types and these are the results:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLN4uRnb...jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLN4vAsa...jpg&name=large

Turns out all eye types suffer the same fate. The very clear eyelid lines got toned down giving a different impression. The older ones looks kinder, calmer, and I personally prefer it that way.
It could be because the new lighting making it brighter around the eyes, still the eyelid shouldn't be erased like this. I would appreciate it if this can be fixed to stay as close to the original as possible.

And out of curiosity I made a simple retouch myself to see if it will actually help. Focus around the eyes.

After
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLc4G3Pa...name=4096x4096
Before
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLc5TI1a...pg&name=medium
After
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLc5UY4b...pg&name=medium

They are very subtle so here's some gifs.
https://i.imgur.com/XqBsffy.gif

https://i.imgur.com/Y9LBcvP.gif

All I did is make the eyelid lines and the under eye wrinkles a little darker and I'm pretty happy with the results. It is enough to satisfy me. I think they are closer to the original impression. These are just my personal opinion but I hope they are helpful.

Also it appears that the beard still has the old texture.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLc6fkSa...pg&name=medium

And that's all from me. Overall I am happy with the new graphic updates. I believe these updates are still the work in progress and I don't expect a drastic changes to be made on time for launch but I am looking forward to it nonetheless.

Reminder not to engage with intentionally disingenuous people. They will take advantage of your distress about losing the character you know and love. They will attempt to gaslight you with pedantic remarks. Your best weapon, as with all trolls, is to simply not engage, and continue to voice your criticisms here. With enough pushback, they will roll it back. The fact remains that our characters have been altered without our consent and regardless of how much. Those that are okay with the changes are entitled to their opinion. Likewise, those who do not, have the right to be disgruntled about a decision that affects their enjoyment of the game greatly.

If you're feeling mad about your character not being the same: congratulations.

It means you're passionate about the game and your way of interacting with it. You're not a weirdo, you do not need to touch grass and you most certainly aren't "taking it too seriously" just because you have grown attached to your virtual avatar. Keep making your voice heard and remember that there's still two months to go. We don't even know how old the benchmark build is. For all we know, they could've fixed these issues already.

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Originally Posted by MoonNoire

Reminder not to engage with intentionally disingenuous people. They will take advantage of your distress about losing the character you know and love. They will attempt to gaslight you with pedantic remarks. Your best weapon, as with all trolls, is to simply not engage, and continue to voice your criticisms here. With enough pushback, they will roll it back. The fact remains that our characters have been altered without our consent and regardless of how much. Those that are okay with the changes are entitled to their opinion. Likewise, those who do not, have the right to be disgruntled about a decision that affects their enjoyment of the game greatly.

If you're feeling mad about your character not being the same: congratulations.

It means you're passionate about the game and your way of interacting with it. You're not a weirdo, you do not need to touch grass and you most certainly aren't "taking it too seriously" just because you have grown attached to your virtual avatar. Keep making your voice heard and remember that there's still two months to go. We don't even know how old the benchmark build is. For all we know, they could've fixed these issues already.

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Absolutely golden words. Thank you for this wisdom.

Alright one thing that some people here need to admit is that most changes we see so far are actually very small, tiny, baby, almost unnoticeable, pixel level different from the current version. Saying things like 'completely' different, 'not remotely close', when they are 97% similar is going way too far and that's why people may not take your opinion seriously. My twin brothers look more different than this. If you have provide your feedback on the update then move on. Nothing you can do for now.

Yeah, no
If the changes are causing someone to want to fantasia because their character is too different
It's a problem. That's all there is to it

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Originally Posted by moodud

Alright one thing that some people here need to admit is that most changes we see so far are actually very small, tiny, baby, almost unnoticeable, pixel level different from the current version. Saying things like 'completely' different, 'not remotely close', when they are 97% similar is going way too far and that's why people may not take your opinion seriously. My twin brothers look more different than this. If you have provide your feedback on the update then move on. Nothing you can do for now.

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This.

I dislike that people are posting about single pixel differences and muddying the water with nebulous feedback words like "vibe" and "cute". It's drowning out posts with ACTUAL problems people have been posting like neck seams, Roe noses, and weird lip textures.

People are getting so pedantic and hysterical that it's already making people disregard all feed back regardless of its veracity.

Acting as if everyone hasn't already provided a billion diagrams, charts and comparisons showcasing what's changed only to be met with disingenuous responses such as "it's the same image" or pretending nobody has posted anything to begin with