Just something really frustrating.
Queued up for A10. It was a good run overall, except for the other Tank. I'm not sure exactly how, but he died pretty early on in the fight. Given the rate his HP shot down, and that he then immediately returned rather than getting res'd, I can only imagine he killed himself for a carry.
And of course he got the piece of loot that I wanted too.
Some people...
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11-13-2016, 09:50 AMZhaneX
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11-13-2016, 09:56 AMEvergreySome people indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZhaneX
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11-13-2016, 10:41 AMMoonfishIn my experience, I always get queued with others of my role. I queue as dps, dps for miles. I queue as tank, I've never known how many players play tanks. Healer?At least 3/4 of the group are green. And it irritates me, because I know there are dps only groups out there that could use a healer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killerkub
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11-13-2016, 11:11 AMKallistra
AST is one of the few classes I don't have leveled yet, so Selli said, "Let's run trials and I'll show you how I AST."
We get Garuda HM, which is one of my least favorite trials (pre-nerf Nexus PTSD), and we have a majority of new people as well. But I'm on DPS, Selli is on healer, she's gonna feed me cards, so I was confident we would be fine.
Except, Selli didn't use a single card. She would Draw, get a Ewer/Spire, Redraw, get Bole (or Spire/Ewer), and Royal Road/Discard... the whole run. All 8 minutes of it. If I could bottle all the salt coming out of her during that Garuda HM, we'd have enough salt to shut down the largest salt mine in the world. And I learned that you AST by not using cards at all. :^) -
11-13-2016, 04:15 PMFluffernuff
Was playing my still sproutling Alt earlier and decided to try to mess around and do PotD. Now, I remember trying it before on said character, but I had 0/0 and didn't have save data, so i thought it was odd. get to floor 5 and cutscene "oh great, im starting over" I say to myself.
Honestly? not too bad, i got some flares and brightens so I was able to squeak by all the floor requirements.... unless they removed those? I couldnt be asked to read every PotD change from the patch...
Anyway, I got armor screwed as a tank, and I decided "I'm a level 30 something tank with no armor, lets go tank floor 51-60".
Get in there with a healer, BRD, SMN, and myself as a tank.
Things... did not go well. I couldn't hold aggro and I swear the SMN was trolling or grieving or something. I think they could have handled solo...maybe? MAAAYBE? but they would run off and pull like 8 or 9 things by themselves. and run them back to the rest of us. well it got to the point where i had to afk for ~2 minutes because i had a semi-important phone call. i tell the group and the BRD and CNJ respond and the SMN is off... doing their thing.
so i get back and everyone is dead and the smn is giving me crap about how sproutling tanks are the worst thing to ever happen to the game and yada yada. i shrug it off, the BRD coming to my defense, but regardless i use raise on everyone and the first thing SMN does? with half health and weakness? pull the same pack that killed them all....... AND sent their ifrit off to pull another pack. which gets them all killed again. I saw the wipe coming, focused on 2 things, killed them and backed off to avoid getting into combat again and raise them again. yknow. saving from TWO wipes now.
Smn chimes in about how i didnt tank anything and how i'm worthless. i have my snarky retort "and my lack of ability is stopping wipes from your overability". now they all have half health and brink of death.
....same pull.
"the heck is wrong with this guy?" rinse repeat. this time i raise the BRD and CNJ, and ask the SMN why they are pulling at half health and brink of death. suddenly they go silent.
anyway, after all that i sit the other 2 down for the 2 minutes, wipe brink of death and raise the SMN (no, i didn't just grief him. i was waiting for a response and they wouldnt give me one... so to save the group, i waited). things went...... better after that. the only real terrible thing was my poor aether-starved self had no chance in the 7 hells to hold emnity off a player with effectively 60 levels on me... so the boss was... fun.
Got 2 comms. wonder who the other one went to.
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11-13-2016, 05:34 PMTexa
I've encountered a lot of people acting like that on the later PotD floors. A few days ago when I was running as Scholar, one dude was so crappy the tank and I both ended up reporting him. Like at one point the tank and the other dps hit 2 lure traps. His response to that was to use the rage pom, walk into the other direction, and do absolutely nothing to help the tank, other dps, and I take the mob down. Then when we managed to kill everything he started saying stuff like "didn't want to ruin your fun" and acting disingenuous about what he did. It got much worse from there, the whole thing was a mess and the whole reason he was acting like that was because he didn't like how slow we were going at the start.
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11-13-2016, 06:54 PMMysterysword
1 BRD, 3 BLMs, in Titan HM. Foe Requiem? PERISH THE THOUGHT. The MT even actively encouraged the BRD not to sing when I mentioned my "hopes" for Foe Requiem. Something about the BRD not succumbing to peer pressure.
Why do I even bother? WHY?
It's shit like this, in addition to that lovely run of Sohm Al as DRK where a NIN "buffed" me with Smokescreen, that really drives home the point of why we can't have nice things. -
11-13-2016, 07:02 PMRhuazieHopefully you guys kicked him. That's by far the worst PotD story... Well, not sure if it's worse than the time I ran with a naked pre-party doing joke erps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texa
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11-13-2016, 07:52 PMThe_Shang
Wall of text, but this confirms I really should not queue up for roulettes right before I go to bed, even if I'm playing with friends. The randoms we end up with are usually not worth it.
Yesterday I had my weirdest run of Castrum Meridianum ever. Aside from the ridiculously long queue time, which already got to me since I *really* wanted to get it over with (and I dislike healing large groups), the party we ended up with...
To note, I went in as Astro (which I'm leveling and was looking forward to using Noct with), and the 2 friends that joined went in with Ninja and Bard. We ended up with: Warrior, Paladin, Scholar (T_T), another Bard and a Machinist.
What followed wasn't exactly a trainwreck, but I swear to god half the party didn't even know what to do! Aside from only having one confirmed new player (the second bard), it sure felt like the tanks and the other healer were new as well (which is odd since one of the tanks had the 'Finder of False Gods' title, which I'm pretty sure you get from EX Primal clears).
First, all the tanks did at the start was aggro the initial group of enemies. By initial, I mean aggro the very tiny group at the start, not even bothering pulling enemies away from the searchlights. 'Ok', I thought. 'If you aren't comfortable with those kinds of pulls I understand' and just healed. But, people were ignoring the serchlights, aside from my friends. I didn't notice it at first until my friends pointed it out to me. First boss went fine but then again it's really hard to screw up there (though oddly enough I could not dps as much as I'd liked).
Next part, tanks did incredibly small pulls as well. While I understand that our party set-up at the moment didn't really have *that* good AoE damage, a Scholar, 2 Bards and a Machinist should've been able to burn through the mobs like it was nothing. That's not the best part though. The explosive pick-ups were ignored, and the tanks went straight to the boss room without blowing up the pipes. Me and my friends were actively telling the group they were going the wrong way, but it still took them a good minute to realize it. And because we missed one explosive, my Bard friend went to pick it up while unintentionally pulling a few mobs, which me, my friend and the Machinist killed.
Suddenly, the Scholar pipes up about us not being with the main group, saying we were afk. I nearly snapped, because I was tired and getting really annoyed with the way the run was going. I told her we were killing mobs because people forgot to pick up explosives. She retorts with 'O rly? Why didn't your HP drop then?'. I put her in her place immediately by saying I have regens, and that's why we weren't in any danger whatsoever. If you want to know why she complained, just go to the end of my post.
So then we have the second boss. Everything was fine until the addtional mob spawns, where somehow, even with BOTH TANKS IN TANK STANCE, the tanks couldn't hold aggro against my regens, so I was forced to kite. Thankfull my regens were good enough to keep me alive, but I barely had any time to use card buffs because I was too focused on running.
The trash pulls up to the third boss were questionable as well, with barely anyone on the cannons and stopping the pull halfway to the second set of cannons. 3rd boss was ok, but there's very little to screw up there and the final part was relatively ok too (still, barely anyone were using cannons, and tanks weren't pulling them back).
Then we get Magitek Armor Livia. No one is coordinating (but I'm used to that) but it ended up causing cannons to die. Now, I know they respawn, but this was just plain stupid. So the fight took longer than was needed, not to mention the tanks insisting on working their aggro combo on Livia while the fight has no solid aggro.
Phase shift to the proper Livia fight, I had to point out to the Scholar to resummon their fairy (why they even get released has always been weird to me). The fight was otherwise clean. I was glad to leave the instance though.
I may sound nitpicky, but a run that should last about 15-20mins depending on party setup, took over 30 mins to complete.
Addendum:
My bard friend was running a parser (I know, I know), and pointed out to me that my healing output was more than the Scholar's and her fairy's combined, as well as my DPS! I only managed to throw in a Combust/Combust 2 here and there because I was scared what would happen otherwise, but the Scholar was *obviously* slacking. I guess that explains why she was bitching about afk people, because she actually had to work for once. -
11-13-2016, 08:27 PMTexaWe didn't kick him for that. It was close to the end of the dungeon and I personally decided to just ignore him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuazie
But then we get to the floor 80 boss and he decided it'd be cute to do absolutely no DPS or support (he was a bard). He only moved to avoid AoEs, to get into proximity of my AoE heals, and to mock us. He didn't do anything to contribute at all until the boss was at half HP, the MCH had died, and I got killed after getting caught in a tornado trying to get over to the MCH. Once the boss was dead he starting saying stuff like "I didn't help because I just wanted to see the pros in action". I told him to eff off and left, but then I proceeded to 81 and lo and behold dude was in my party again going "lol who's gonna carry you this time?". Thankfully the tank from before was also there and that's when we kicked and reported him.
It was fun after that, we bonded. Good times.