Housing Ideas and Feature Requests

We need "invisible" lighting objects similar to the ones that were part of RIFT Dimensions. They came in different sizes and hues. When in housing edit mode, a small object could be seen that indicated where the lighting effect was radiating from so it could be re-positioned as needed. Outside of edit mode, the object was invisible so only the lighting effect could be seen. Since we lack the ability to free place items vertically, the objects could be either tabletop or wall-mounted and we can use our "floating" techniques to place them where desired.

I really would like to be able to change the walls and support beams in the house. For instance I love the marble walls however the pillars don't match and the walls you can't change don't match. This is very frustrating when you're trying to theme things. I would also like to be able to just place the windows on partitions.

Please read Square Enix!

Something that I see often discussed in game, but I do not know if it exists here as a suggestion, is housing lottery. It is often now that people are gaining houses by using automated systems. It is already frustrating enough loosing so many hours of gameplay just to continuously click placards to hope that a house would release for sale, so to keep loosing houses to relocation or auto-bots is extra frustrating.

Housing Lottery Idea Explained:
When a plot becomes ready, give it a 12 or 24 hour count down. During that single count down the plot does not devalue, but instead if you interact with the plot's placard you are applying your character to be added to the housing lottery. This lottery is for non-owners AND relocations giving both an equal shot, and allows all players to continue enjoying the game while they wait. Requiring to still interact with the plot's placard ensures that it is only active players getting submitted to the lottery. After the count down is over, one person out of everyone whom interacted with the placard during the time frame will win the plot and receive a in-game congratulations message at that time if they are logged in, or when they log in the next time. It would also help telling them in their chat log too which plot and ward they are in, for if they interacted with multiple placards. Between your existing systems, I think this would be completely possible to implement and would make your players extremely happy that things are at least fairer.

Relocation Limitation Suggestion:
However if a relocation gains the lottery plot, they use up a one use item that is un-tradable and un-sellable. This will remove the issue of people relocating multiple times. This would not include a limitation for plot size upgrades or downgrades.
(There could maybe be a limited time offer, maybe even paid from the Mogstation, that when a completely new location, like when Shirogane's housing opened, where they get a extra single relocation.)

Magic brooms like Matoya has in her cave that path around and sweep even if they clip through furniture etc would be cool. Maybe give us the ability to preset a path for the brooms to go, or pre-program some "shapes" for paths that the broom can sweep to give us a little flexibility with how they interact in our houses/apartments/fc rooms.

Another thing I'd like to see is model airships or or things that hover in place kind of like the balloon deco (can't recall the name). Maybe not as massive as that but pretty decent size. Thanks.

Allow rooms purchase for personal housing just like FC housing. Probably limit to 15 rooms or so?

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Originally Posted by Chalabo

Please read Square Enix!

Something that I see often discussed in game, but I do not know if it exists here as a suggestion, is housing lottery. It is often now that people are gaining houses by using automated systems. It is already frustrating enough loosing so many hours of gameplay just to continuously click placards to hope that a house would release for sale, so to keep loosing houses to relocation or auto-bots is extra frustrating.

Housing Lottery Idea Explained:
When a plot becomes ready, give it a 12 or 24 hour count down. During that single count down the plot does not devalue, but instead if you interact with the plot's placard you are applying your character to be added to the housing lottery. This lottery is for non-owners AND relocations giving both an equal shot, and allows all players to continue enjoying the game while they wait. Requiring to still interact with the plot's placard ensures that it is only active players getting submitted to the lottery. After the count down is over, one person out of everyone whom interacted with the placard during the time frame will win the plot and receive a in-game congratulations message at that time if they are logged in, or when they log in the next time. It would also help telling them in their chat log too which plot and ward they are in, for if they interacted with multiple placards. Between your existing systems, I think this would be completely possible to implement and would make your players extremely happy that things are at least fairer.

Relocation Limitation Suggestion:
However if a relocation gains the lottery plot, they use up a one use item that is un-tradable and un-sellable. This will remove the issue of people relocating multiple times. This would not include a limitation for plot size upgrades or downgrades.
(There could maybe be a limited time offer, maybe even paid from the Mogstation, that when a completely new location, like when Shirogane's housing opened, where they get a extra single relocation.)

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No a lottery is not the solution to this, people will complain about RNG in these forums, more so than bots. The best solution is to not allow people to own more than 1 house and FC house per service account, any grandfathering that is currently in game should be removed! They also need to simple double the current amount of wards per city state. If for some reason they cannot double the amount of current wards per city state, then the amount of servers per data center should be increased to spread the populations out more, however they need to also open data center travel.

Ability to simulate daylight and possibly night while doing exterior decor. It's really hard to figure out an exterior colour composition at night and using gpose to simulate light is clumsy.

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Originally Posted by ern815

Allow rooms purchase for personal housing just like FC housing. Probably limit to 15 rooms or so?

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That would be awesome ! more rooms to decorate !

I want some weeds for my garden.

i wish the devs allow us to make "kits"
what i mean for kit? is basically, lets say you want a somewhat long wall, and that wall uses 4 item slots of the funiture limit, instead of having it taking so much space, we could take those 4 partitions and use them as material to craft a partition what has the length of 4 partitions but uses only 1 item spot
same thing can be done to lofts and other basic funiture
things what could be done whit this:
partitions what has the lenght of 2/3/4 partitions
1x2/2x2 size lofts
chair/couch + desk as one item
2/3/4 length stone steps
and so on
this could free so much space for those who we want to add more funiture which could allow the devs not need to increase the item limit for a while yet

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Originally Posted by Xau

i wish the devs allow us to make "kits"
what i mean for kit? is basically, lets say you want a somewhat long wall, and that wall uses 4 item slots of the funiture limit, instead of having it taking so much space, we could take those 4 partitions and use them as material to craft a partition what has the length of 4 partitions but uses only 1 item spot
same thing can be done to lofts and other basic funiture
things what could be done whit this:
partitions what has the lenght of 2/3/4 partitions
1x2/2x2 size lofts
chair/couch + desk as one item
2/3/4 length stone steps
and so on
this could free so much space for those who we want to add more funiture which could allow the devs not need to increase the item limit for a while yet

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That's a great idea! The only potential hazard would be we'd run the risk of the finished product being decorated in a way we dislike if tabletop items are part of it as well. Nevertheless, most things like that could be covered easily enough.

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Originally Posted by Xau

i wish the devs allow us to make "kits"
what i mean for kit? is basically, lets say you want a somewhat long wall, and that wall uses 4 item slots of the funiture limit, instead of having it taking so much space, we could take those 4 partitions and use them as material to craft a partition what has the length of 4 partitions but uses only 1 item spot
same thing can be done to lofts and other basic funiture
things what could be done whit this:
partitions what has the lenght of 2/3/4 partitions
1x2/2x2 size lofts
chair/couch + desk as one item
2/3/4 length stone steps
and so on
this could free so much space for those who we want to add more funiture which could allow the devs not need to increase the item limit for a while yet

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The only way it works is if the 'kits' were just premade furniture client-side (as in a table + chairs as one object already in the client files with no ability to change positioning, individual coloring, etc of any individual piece). If they're all custom then you just have the same amount of data being called on.

thats why i put the word "craft" on what i said

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we could take those 4 partitions and use them as material to craft a partition what has the length of 4 partitions but uses only 1 item spot

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in no way the devs will be willing to let us the players make our own recipes, so it has to be on the dev side to make new recipes of funiture what allow us to use less funiture slots

I'm not sure if its been said already but a Z axis so we don't have to glitch furniture up in the air

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Originally Posted by Recon1o6

I'm not sure if its been said already but a Z axis so we don't have to glitch furniture up in the air

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It's been said countless times, thread after thread. A lot of people want it, myself included.

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Originally Posted by Gula

It's been said countless times, thread after thread. A lot of people want it, myself included.

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It's still a good request, and shouldn't be THAT difficult for the devs to manage. Certainly easier than all the hand wringing they do over adding slots...

the ability to change wall partitions without having to remove the wall hanging items and store them.
Just provide a right click, open inventory/storage and switch the wall partition with another.

Isn't it about time to make all houses equal? Seriously is there a reason why a small house only gets 1 garden? There's plenty of room for 3 plots for all houses.

Please normalize the scrip vendors. I post this here because the furniture they sell varies, despite the fact they sell materials and gear across expansions. Garden Gravel for example is only available from Stormblood vendors when there's no reason it couldn't be available for scrips from other vendors.

Hello. I think we are lacking with distinctly Art Deco furniture and therefore would like to request some more Amoroutine furniture besides the wall lamps.

In the same vein, Sharlayan walls to go with the craft-able floors or the Anemos furniture

The lockout timer that is applied whenever any property is vacated is proving to be a huge headache for anyone looking to buy a private or Free Company estate. I don't know about anyone else, but I've been trying to get a plot for my FC for the last 2 weeks and I'm seriously burned out from camping vacated plots for hours on end only to have to quit from exhaustion or to have the plot taken by one of many other players camping the plot or someone who takes the plot through relocation. If the lockout is to remain implemented it needs to be changed and here are a few suggestions:

1. Make the timer visible so players know when to expect the plot to be unlocked, or at the very least limit the lockout time to no more than 4 hours. Making players camp a plot for an unknowable length of time for a chance to secure it for themselves or their Free Company can lead to player exhaustion as described above even to the point of potentially endangering their health. Sure, SE can just say that it's the player's own responsibility to participate in moderation and basically take care of themselves, but anyone with even the most basic understanding of human behavior can assume that there are going to be those who end up taking things too far even to the detriment of their own well-being.

2. Limit the lockout to properties that are vacated by the players themselves. If the lockout is intended to prevent resale of plots between players, then it doesn't make sense to include properties that are vacated by auto-demolition, relocation, or deletion of the owning character. The current all-encompassing implementation acts to needlessly inconvenience players desiring to purchase a property.

Fact is, these ideas should have been a no-brainer from the start.

Saving house design (aka. Housing set gear/glamour)

So i can easily change from one theme to another...

While cross-breeding plants is not a required part of the game, it's still an optional element of game play (just like crafting, gathering, non-storyline dungeons, etc.). However, unlike these others, the housing situation makes the plant breeding part of the game impossible for some. FC housing is not an option because if the FC has 5 or 6 or more people who want to cross-breed, there's just no room. Here are some options:
Option 1: Allow 1 garden 8-plant garden plot in FC chambers or apartments to open up cross-breeding.
Option 2: Increase housing so there's enough for most players.
Option 3: Remove cross-breeding plants as a part of game play since most of us can't do it anyway. Just make the seeds a harvested item.

Personally, I'd love to see option 1....

Most of us can't cross-breed plants because we can't get into a house and there are too many in the FC who are already using the FCs plots. A simple solution is to please allow an 8-slot garden plot in an FC chamber or apartment. This will open up cross breeding to more people.

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I knew I asked for Aurmorotine furniture in general but I wanted to highlight this gate from Akademia Ayndyr and say that it and it counterpart would make lovely partitions

moving apartment rooms without having to redo the whole room.

Add an apartment type that has a built in garden area. This is something that Lotro offers with some of their premium housing - which, yes it's 'housing' since they don't have 'apartments' but you could scale this down rather easily. It'd work rather nicely if they ever upgraded apartments and allowed us to have 'additional' areas that wouldn't overtax the servers. Just a nice garden area within the house or behind a loading door and allow us to buy different 'sizes' for varying amounts of gil.

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i think the Angler's Canvas need to be in color. the same as the item icon. right now they look like a photocopier running low on ink picture

Probably an outlier here, but morbol are among my favorite FF monsters and I'd love more furniture - I can't resist throwing what does exist in any plant-themed home... They're just so wonderfully grotesque, and I adore them. :x

...You know what? Please just give us more plant-based furnishings in general. I love the ancient overgrown look, and some crumbling, ruin-eqsue stuff would be glorious.

Also, a rectangular or square version of the carpet of flowers, as it's a bit difficult to get certain looks with the current, circular carpet.

I like the idea of making my house a sort of spa themed "resort" or a bed and breakfast. However I'd really like to incorporate a masseuse. It would be great to have a massage table added for housing! If you want to make it real genuine you could make it so when people lay down on it they're flat on their stomach. I however would settle for JUST the massage table. Please and thank you!

I want 4 things for housing:
1) Calca and brina vendors
2) A door that is basicly like the doors to go inside houses or apartments or fc rooms , cause i made my fc room be a third/fourth floor of my carbuncle house( basicly the 3 windows of the side)
3) can we pls make it so that if i make a corner that they auto-fill the empty spot, or when there are 2 partitions that theyd hide the line
4) and lastly can we make all white partitions and other white stuff be the same kind of white

A special housing market board in each housing area. That shows houses for sale, timers etc and lets you buy from there instead of manually going through the ward list.

A new method to buying houses rather then multitudes of people (and bots) spamming the same button over and over in hopes of being the lucky one.

Some way to keep bots from auto spamming house buying. Well thats more of a dream then a request but hey one can ask right?

This thread is super long so I have no doubt I'm repeating some feedback others gave. But it's important to me and I think adding yet another voice to this issue has value.

The current system for purchasing a plot of land, when you are not relocating, is severely broken. It forces players to not play the game, for some random duration of time between about 30 minutes and 24 hours, if they want a minuscule change of acquiring a house.
This issue is compounded with the fact that the demolition timer has been on pause for over 3 months now. I propose that this game is more likely to lose a subscriber over the housing issue than it is to regain a subscriber who left because of COVID-related income worries who also happened to own a house in-game.

I think it's time to end the demolition timer.

The simplest fix to the housing purchase system I've seen proposed, and that I agree with, is a lottery system. Here are some specifics on how I would implement a lottery system:
1) When a plot becomes empty, for a period of time (I suggest 24 hours), the plot goes up for lottery.
2) One player or FC can request one lottery ticket per plot. The ticket is free, but sufficient gil funds must be in the player's inventory or the FC's chest at the time.
3) Once the time period is up, the system determines the random lottery winner. If the winner no longer has sufficient gil, then it goes to the next winner. Otherwise the gil is taken from the winner's balance.
4) If a player or FC has a plot already, and they want to relocate, they also need to participate in the lottery. Technically someone who already has a house doesn't need one more than someone who doesn't have one, so it makes no sense that relocations would get priority like they do now.
5) If a player or FC wins a lottery and gets the plot, they receive an email notification (out of game) and have the standard 45 days to build the house. In addition, they are withdrawn from all other lotteries (but are welcome to join lotteries for relocation).

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Originally Posted by EthanXdeath

No a lottery is not the solution to this, people will complain about RNG in these forums, more so than bots. The best solution is to not allow people to own more than 1 house and FC house per service account, any grandfathering that is currently in game should be removed! They also need to simple double the current amount of wards per city state. If for some reason they cannot double the amount of current wards per city state, then the amount of servers per data center should be increased to spread the populations out more, however they need to also open data center travel.

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I frankly don't care if people are going to complain about RNG. The long-term solution is more housing, but if Square Enix doesn't want to invest money in resources/power/space/cooling to expand housing, then at least fix the current broken system with something a lot more fair than encouraging players to click the same sign over and over again for a random number of hours. I would not consider using a bot, but you can't deny the current system would make bots seem like an attractive option. Lottery is one idea for a fix that doesn't require more server resources. What other ideas do people have?

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Originally Posted by jazz0ne

It forces players to not play the game, for some random duration of time between about 30 minutes and 24 hours, if they want a minuscule change of acquiring a house..

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Statements like these make no sense.

How are you being forced to "not play the game" when what you are doing is part of the game? It might be a less than enjoyable part, it might be a poorly designed part, but it is still part of the game. It is the player's choice to be camping placards instead of doing other content.

The smart thing to do is to play the other parts of the game you enjoy and wait for more houses to get added. That's what worked for me in 4.2. That's what worked for six of the members in my FC in 5.1. It will work for others when Ishgard gets added.

Resuming the auto-demolition timer won't be a magic fix. It's also unlikely to happen until 5.31 at the earliest and more likely 5.35. Considering most of the currently inactive owners will likely return for 5.3 since it's the conclusion of the Shadowbringer's story, the number of houses that will become available won't make a dent in the demand for houses.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

The smart thing to do is to play the other parts of the game you enjoy and wait for more houses to get added. That's what worked for me in 4.2. That's what worked for six of the members in my FC in 5.1. It will work for others when Ishgard gets added.

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While I appreciate the advice, the purpose of my post was to give Square Enix feedback, and to make sure the discussion of this important issue generates sufficient feedback from a variety of users so that if they choose to address it, they will have some potentially good ideas. If the vast majority of players eligible for a piece of content designed to be part of the game are choosing to do anything but that content, then perhaps it is flawed and needs to be redesigned.

I do not think Square Enix had this sort of game loop in mind when they redesigned the way houses are purchased in this latest iteration. It is more likely an unintended gameplay loop that makes people feel like they are not playing anything at all, and it is not at all fun. Leaving a gameplay loop that provides maximum "feel bad" in a game is a sure way to push some players away.

Would love to see a low fence option for Shirogane that is in the style of the housing there but that doesn't hide the beautiful view of the water. Personally I've elected to not use fencing because the view is a lot more important to me.

I don't know if it's already been suggested, but more control over who's allowed in and out of houses, like a blacklist/whitelist system. Not being able to kick people out of a house, or ban them, feels very unusual for a player housing system.

Absolutely agree that purchasing a plot is way too difficult.
For a more fun suggestion (that's probably already come up), a way to have a minion in your home would be a lot of fun. Maybe have an interactive "pet bed" that you can assign one of your minions to. That minion would then be summoned in your house and treat the "pet bed" like the player-- wandering around it, doing it's animations. Just a fun way to do more with a minion, I think

More item placement slots for Small, Medium & Large houses. Houses still feel really empty if you tried to maximize their space- each housing type needs 100 more items allowed to be placed.

Arched doorways with doors
Dyeable Brick- brick comes in more than just red
Lights, Windows, NPCs shouldn't count as furniture
dyeable Brick, wood & stone partitions
Bay windows
More variety NPCs- I'd like to see the ability to place your favorite Scion for example, standing in their idle pose ex: thancred crossing his arms standing wherever you place him
Outside partition that changes scenery based on time of day/ season or varied partitions based on the weather & season you want; ex: rainy partition looking out to a meadow or forest or an ocean/ beach
Dye partitions as well as doors, not just dye-able doors
Toilets
Vanity with mirror & stool
Trees not in planters- ex: giant oak sprouting through the floor
Long, hanging Ivy
Forest themed decor
Amarout themed decor
Mermaid themed decor
Cottage themed decor