NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

not everything is based on the efficiency or the most wanted.

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Duty Finder is not. (Well, mostly...)
Party Finder already is :p

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Originally Posted by Exstal

They are balancing the jobs so that each job is viable for every raid. Just what people who want to play the class shouldn't be ignored because it's not as good as the other classes.

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As much as I agree with you, thats just not gonna happen. Some people are nice and don't care but most people will want what is most efficient for the content. If Ninja does good DPS like monk or even decent Dps but has slashing damage. you'll see more people wanting nin/drg/brd instead of bringing in monk. If Ninjas dps isn't great and has bad utility or is just too difficult to see played well, then ninja will get left out of content. Thats the game we play and it's been like that since day 1. In a way it's kind of sad but that's just how it is. Synergy/Utility/power over playing your favorite class or in some cases your favorite role.

Duty Finder prevents people from not being able to progress in the game. For end game people can make their own parties to do end game or join a FC and have a static. There is no excuse as to why any job can not do raids.

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Originally Posted by LoLo

Duty Finder prevents people from not being able to progress in the game. For end game people can make their own parties to do end game or join a FC and have a static. There is no excuse as to why any job can not do raids.

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Duty finder has it's limits(old content, players leaving, no current coil, etc.) and only a nice enough group or a not so progression focused one would let you gimp the static as a whole playing an inefficient job. I hardly ever see someone recruiting for a static without knowing the job they want the new person to be already. You're acting like people don't keep out jobs for the sake of better play or faster wins, when we both play on the same world and you can glance at party finder and shouts to see that people indeed keep out certain jobs and have been doing so since launch.

Remember Monk before buff? most parties didn't even want melee and if they did it was dragoon. Summoner before the DPS was found to be high? Double Paladin? Only ranged?

We literally do this all the time.

Heck there was even a point when doing ifrit hard if there was no blm/smn in DF parties everyone left. So Df doesn't solve everything.

So basically, Ninja has to be between Dragoon and Monk or it'll be current Black Mage level of desirability. That's going to be annoying.

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Originally Posted by Cynric

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I join FC statics, I play with people that know me in the game. It is best to join a FC that does end game. But honestly none of the jobs out right now are useless and do not hold their weight. What people are trying to say is that they dont have faith in the devs to create a job that is useful and if found unuseful, have the job revised just like they did for previous jobs.

What buff on Monk are you talking about? I only played Monk during 2.0 - 2.2 then changed my main to Bard after a month into 2.2 because my new static already had a Monk. I never had a problem doing end game on Monk when it was my main. Every time I did end game there was a monk present. I never seen a problem with Monk if the player knows how to dodge and learn to flank well.

It all comes down to is the player skilled or not.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

So basically, Ninja has to be between Dragoon and Monk or it'll be current Black Mage level of desirability. That's going to be annoying.

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Or it can be however the developers want it to be. It doesn't have to follow or go in between anything.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Or it can be however the developers want it to be. It doesn't have to follow or go in between anything.

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It ultimately doesn't matter what it becomes because I will be playing the hell out of it!　Took them too long to introduce a Rogue/Thief/Ninja/Assassin type class and now that it's finally here, I am PUMPED.

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Originally Posted by Cynric

Remember Monk before buff? most parties didn't even want melee and if they did it was dragoon. Summoner before the DPS was found to be high? Double Paladin? Only ranged? .

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I recall all of this except the dragoon preference. Never saw any of that.

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Originally Posted by LoLo

Do you understand the different between a class and a job? Because I'm talking about a job and you are still saying class. lol

This game doesn't have 15 or even 12 classes that do raid content, what game are you playing? There are only 8 combat classes in the game. There will be 9 combat classes in 2.4.

Honestly if we want to be totally truthful. None of the classes in the game do raid content. But jobs in this game do raid content. 4 man dungeons are the only place I have seen people as a class doing content within a party setting. I have never seen anyone in a class for CT, Coil, and Hard/Extreme Primals.

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If your going to deflect by pointing out semantics at least try and sound half intelligent. Sorry your not old enough to know that class the common term used to describe the player's character in MMOs and most RPG games in general for... I guess since tabletop gaming.

1. War
2. Pal
3. Whm
4. Sch
5. Smn
6. Blm
7. Drg
8. Mnk
9. Brd
10. Nin
11. 3.0 tank
12. 3.0 healer


Now want to try and actually respond to the statement you claim is wrong? Come on you can do it.