The Fashion Report

To elaborate on http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4599774 ...

Yep, there are essentially two stages for each slot:
(1) finding the color family that gives +2
(2) finding the BiS dye that gives +3 within that family

Stage 1 can be done more efficiently by trying multiple slots at the same time. It requires understanding how the scores are calculated. I'll run through my experiments from week 4. Original screenshots at https://imgur.com/a/ZE4KA

Unthemed slots give 7 points for any item. Themed slots give a minimum of 2 points for items that don't match the theme. So a basic left-side-only outfit would get (4*2 + 2*7) = 22 points. I confirm this using my first attempt, but it's technically unnecessary.

Dyeing those items snow white / soot black gave no extra points, so now I know that none of those slots are in the white or black color families.

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When I tried dalamud red, I got 24 points. I know the extra 2 points came from the hands because that slot went from 1-star to 2-star. So now I know that red dyes give +2 on hands.

Cream yellow got 26 points. The 4 extra points are most likely +2 on two separate slots. I can see that legs became 2-star so that's one of the slots, and deduced the other one was the feet. (If there are multiple unthemed slots that I'm testing, I would have to use more attempts to figure out which one it was.) So yellow dyes give +2 on legs and feet.

Sunset orange and Ash grey also got 24 points, same logic as with dalamud red.

My alts can't access dyeable weapons but they would have been done the same way.

Further optimizations are also possible, but make things more complicated.
a) After I find out that hands are red, I could have started testing different reds simultaneously while trying to find the color families for other slots.
b) When multiple slots are eg. yellow, the BiS +3 dye is generally the same shade of yellow for all of them. So if I know that legs and feet are yellow, I can dye them two different shades of yellow and essentially guess for the +3 dye at double efficiency.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

there are 8 families, black, white, and the next six circles on the dye menu (last one doesn't count).

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I believe grey is a separate family too. The pattern I've noticed is that the families follow the color of the paint bucket in the item icon. And yeah, the last tab containing the general-purpose dyes isn't its own family, instead every dye in there is part of one of the other families.

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Originally Posted by Yue_XIV

I believe grey is a separate family too. The pattern I've noticed is that the families follow the color of the paint bucket in the item icon. And yeah, the last tab containing the general-purpose dyes isn't its own family, instead every dye in there is part of one of the other families.

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Was about to mention how the reddit user found that out about Grey's last week but then I saw your username. Thanks a lot for the work you put in each week in helping us find the correct dye family!

By the way, you can edit a post later to get past the 1000 character limit.

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Originally Posted by kuma_aus

By the way, you can edit a post later to get past the 1000 character limit.

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d heck >.> Will keep this in mind too

Anyone looking for a cheap last minute outfit, heres what i used.

Weapon - Any undyed
Head - Flat Cap in Coral Pink(lvl 45 wvr recipe, sahagin dye)
Body - Any in any purple
Hands - Any in any purple
Legs - Any in Coral Pink
Feet - Dhammelskin Fringe Boots in any yellow(i meant to buy the serpentskin but got these instead - level 55 and sold by the moogle vendor in zenith among other places... also a ltw recipe)
2nd Ring - Ultima Ring of ____(from minstrels ballad ultimas bane, any classes ring gets gold)
Non-hinted jewelry - Any

That scored me 81 points for an investment of a little over 12k gil(the boots mostly), a handful of level 40 weaver mats, and a couple of ultima runs.

Not sure what i'm doing wrong :( Only 72 points with everything
https://i.imgur.com/t96AqZe.png

You have to equip something in the accessory slots that are not evaluated too.
Just equip anything in your earring, necklace, bracelet and other ring slot and you should hit 100

I managed to get 88 with the Turtleneck Christmas coat (forgot actual name) and Proto Ultima ring as alternate and used Rust Red, Grape Purple & Halatali Yellow as alternate colors. No way am I wearing those garish colors for 100! What the Hell is wrong with these Judges?!

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Originally Posted by red_star

You have to equip something in the accessory slots that are not evaluated too.
Just equip anything in your earring, necklace, bracelet and other ring slot and you should hit 100

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Awesome, you're a life saver. Thank you!