SMN - Why it is not a very interesting job and not a good upgrade from ACN

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Originally Posted by Akiza

To rebalance the Egis Square needs to make the Egis more like the Primals. Ifrit uses his element to make explosive charges to take you down. Titan is a massive tank and uses his element to crush you. Garuda uses here element to cut you down from all angles.
Ifrit Egi- remove radiant shield since it's a useless ability and add radiant plumes, eruption and a passive ability that adds burning to dots.
Titan Egi- add weight of the land and a passive ability that adds heavy to dots.
Garuda Egi- add summon twisters and a passive ability that adds wind burn to dots.

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Sounds imbalanced.

I want to do 500dps too but I don't expect it until the gear allows.

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Originally Posted by Akiza

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Well, I got the rambling spiel right at least.

I know, in "honour" of Akiza's... persistence. Lets have a Silly Suggestions Contest! The aim is to make a suggestion as silly as Akiza's ones.

Using Enkindle initiates a 5 min unskippable cutscene where the Egi turns into a Godzilla size version of the primal and does their special attack and it does 50,000 base damage. Oh and make Enkindle 1 min cooldown.

Go!

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Originally Posted by Exstal

Sounds imbalanced.

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Adding her suggestion would be imbalanced without adjusting other things to compensate, but the actual -concept- of what she suggested isn't a bad one. Of course, to put that much strength into the egi would require removing strength from the Summoner, which would either weaken Arcanist severely (and scholar indirectly) or require removing some of the tools Summoner gets such as Fester (i.e., trading the Fester nuke for additional dot effect from the Egi on top of your current dots).

I do think the passive "adds heavy to dots" from Titan-Egi would be completely useless, though. Summoner already has a dot that applies heavy, and with each dot applying heavy, the heavy resist would build fast and you'd very quickly be getting no benefit from heavy whatsoever. I'd be more interested in seeing Titan-Egi getting a Gaol ability, though it would technically function more like sleep than Titan's Gaol. It would just resemble Titan's Gaol.

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Originally Posted by Razard

Using Enkindle initiates a 5 min unskippable cutscene where the Egi turns into a Godzilla size version of the primal and does their special attack and it does 50,000 base damage. Oh and make Enkindle 1 min cooldown.

Go!

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Egi should definitely be renamed Kaiju.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

Sounds imbalanced.

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Considering there not doing anything to the Summoner and the Pet until the level cap is raise it's not imbalanced

Why the necro on this thread? WHYYYY?!

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Originally Posted by Akiza

Considering there not doing anything to the Summoner and the Pet until the level cap is raise it's not imbalanced

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"It's not imbalanced because I said so!"

What is the average dps for Summoner in Second Coil of Bahumat

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Originally Posted by Akiza

Considering there not doing anything to the Summoner and the Pet until the level cap is raise it's not imbalanced

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So remove their current skills and get them stronger ones, when it already balanced with the current classes is not imbalance?

I think you need to revisit your understanding of the word. While you're at it, you should probably figure out why your "suggestions" are not good for SMN.