New NMs

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Originally Posted by Randis

You are not camping anything and you will not get 24 h nm, stop whining.

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All my bitches luvin' you aint messin wit my dougie.

lol this turned into a insult fest and epeen contest i was kinda having a nice convo before D=.
Anyways the movie was ok ^^.
on topic , like i said before , HNM mechanics would go completely into the other direction from recent updates so is very unlikely to happen , whatever some want it or not.
So like, lets get over it and move on . people play differently is okay to like to camp NMs (personally i never liked it even when i did it to much) and so is ok to not want to do it.
g´night!

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Originally Posted by Jeronlmo

Why do you have to camp what we camp, im really asking, just because something is there doesnt mean you have to try, just stay with the casual game content, still no one is saying HNM's should be the only way to get the best gear in the game, but it should be a way to get some of it just like in 11.

Gear from sky/sea/nyzul/ein/dyna/salvage/znm's/scnm's til abyssea in the very end had some of the best gear in the game for there specific jobs/slots.

Please explain why 21-24hr HNM's in the game means you get 0 gear? you just wont get those absolute best for very specific slots on certain jobs, boohoo. do the rest of the events and cry less.

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FO REAL
This game has enough of trying to make the casuals = to the hardcore already.

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Originally Posted by Visch

He probably won't know because he doesn't even play. You play more than him :P

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I used to play 10+hours i delete my char and reset for a new start now just waiting for the new system fix like battle and class :)

Heres an idea me and my ls just had for HNM's.

Make all non-HNM gear just be smooth and kinda meh but the exact same stats as HNM gear.

While HNM gear has cool looking spikes and stuff.

Ill be wearing spikes, you will look boring, problem solved, you have the best gear in game but you still fail, the world is well.

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Originally Posted by Xeno

FO REAL
This game has enough of trying to make the casuals = to the hardcore already.

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This sums up FFXIV NMs

http://images.wikia.com/ffxi/images/4/4c/Spook.JPG

Don't you guys know they could easy just make HNM be 24-3days pop and allow you get the same item by doing BCNM type system? but no you guys are to in a hurry to bitch about 24+hours nm pop to even think about that.

FFXI did it that how i got one of my black belt item the rest was HNM -.- and i told myself i wont ever do HNM again to much work but i still want to see them in the game.

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Originally Posted by Xeno

FO REAL
This game has enough of trying to make the casuals = to the hardcore already.

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Seriously dude...think about it. The "NM"s we have are the equivalent to Spook from FFXI... 15min repop, and easy as tea bagging a blind person.

There are plenty of ways to add rare great pieces of armor without having people waste 24hrs of life and fight against bots just to get. Full parties will get the best gear from dungeons and fighting NMs. Light parties will will get the good but not great pieces.

This game will not get 24hr HNMs just appeal to a small base that have a lot of time on their hands. Games can become challenging and harder without setting major time sinks.

I'm hoping battle positions play a bigger part in tactics.

hardcore =/= casual and it will always be that way. However, wanting major time sinks doesn't even make you hardcore. You're just someone that has major time on his/her hands.

@ Zenaku

Thats been stated but from the HNM people, ff11 had ein for HNM gear for the most part, casuals will never be happy.

Were not asking for HNM's right now, 75+ will do.