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Why are you so angry at EU players on NA servers feeling disappointed that they are being faced with giving up the game altogether, or giving up friendships they have had for years? It's not a "sense of entitlement", it's sadness at being given two unwelcome choices.

I've played FF games for nearly 14 years now, first on XI and subsequently on 14, with the same groups of friends I got to know all those years ago. Of course I'm going to be sad.

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Originally Posted by LunaFaye

Lets see the responses we are getting from the europeans. How much you wanna bet, that it will be something like "You shouldn\\'t be here in first place". Also how much you wanna bet, that these people that claim to have so many friends on the NA servers and can\\'t transfer without losing all that, are the first ones filling out that free transfer ticket? Oh Irony....

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I find it funny that People still cant See the Problem. We Where on US Servers Since 1.0. because surprise there Where no EU Servers. When they Released EU Servers At the Start of heavensward we already had our houses. When they implement a Feature Where You can take your house with You ok. But with this Housing System It Seems the only way for Them is to Fefund the House and on the New World all houses are taken. So Yeah.........
Totally comaprable with People Moving to an EU Server by Purpous and Complain and People beeing Stuck on a US World.

We've known NA was going to get its own Data Centre for quite a while now, it was an inevitability. EU players staying on NA, is like why NA players didn't move to EU when they got their own DC, because it would impact their play style. It's an unfortunate circumstance, to be sure, but once again, if your ping is <250, you're still able to play the game effectively at a high level, I'm proof of that, as are many others. If your ping is higher than >250, then you won't be top tier but still decent, and honestly, unless you're planning on doing Savage Raiding, then this data centre move shouldn't affect the majority as badly.

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Originally Posted by Scott

I find it funny that People still cant See the Problem. We Where on US Servers Since 1.0. because surprise there Where no EU Servers. When they Released EU Servers At the Start of heavensward we already had our houses. When they implement a Feature Where You can take your house with You ok. But with this Housing System It Seems the only way for Them is to Fefund the House and on the New World all houses are taken. So Yeah.........
Totally comaprable with People Moving to an EU Server by Purpous and Complain and People beeing Stuck on a US World.

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Actually, from start of 2.0 they had the EU servers just not an EU datacentre. SE said numerous times that you would get a better ping on these servers. This was all before houses were even implemented.

So far it is stable, I am happy :)
28 ms ping when no shit (including packet loss) happens.
As a latency check, I usually do a A12S SSS with my war (it is BiS, and I go alone with no STR bonus not pots). Killed 40 s before the end of the timer, so 1990 dps, I guess it is acceptable :)

https://i.gyazo.com/fc87e1e8472dffbb...53fef41db8.png

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...me-too-slow%29

This change did nothing but make it harder to ogcd rotations for people. All this lag still exists and I quote another friend:

if you live on east coast
it's significantly worse
like it's next to impossible for me to double weave for my SMN opener
(When someone can't double weave because of 100 ms it is unplayable from an fully optimization point of view.)

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

Changes to Ping* Times[INDENT]In preparation for the move, we have conducted countless preliminary simulations and on-site verifications regarding ping times. However, due to the physical distance between the old and new data centers, players accessing the NA servers will most likely experience a change in their current ping times. While those who play FINAL FANTASY XIV closer to the new data center will see their ping time fall, those who are now further away from the servers may see those times increase.

FINAL FANTASY XIV was designed to be played in an environment featuring ping times of 200 – 220 milliseconds or less. Even if players experience an increase in ping times due to the data center relocation, as long as their times remain below 200 ms, then they may rest easy, for there should be no discernable difference in gameplay.

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This is simply false, you cannot fully optimize DPS rotations on 100 ping. Furthermore, I am still getting the heal someone with Lustrate but they die lag, and use an atherflow stack. The delay from being able to use ogcd from a ocd is too high on 100 ms.

Quotes of others:
"15ms wont change the fact that Hallowed Ground takes 2 secs to activate or that murdas will still give you rabbits XD"
"But at 90 ping, the game is literally unplayable, how am I supposed to double weave my Ogcds!?"
"Benediction is simply too slow, I was hoping they would fix the on purpose delays so people can transition to the changes easier. With upgraded servers, there should be no reason why hitting bane is so delayed now and it still does not transfer bio even with the newfound lag at 100 ms"
"I shouldn't have to wait to use sidewinder after my dots"
"100 ms alone might work for most games, but it does not work for this one when you have delays to try to attempt to appear to be playable at 200 ms. Maybe it is playable at 200 ms but it is done with sub par performance."
"Why am I hitting abilities that never trigger just because I hit something else? There is too much delay. I play other games with higher delays just fine, I played ffxi in japan just fine."
"If these are better servers how come I have large queues upon log in?"
"100 ms is too high for those that want to fully optimize. It also makes PvP unplayable, I am sure people will be able melee lb me now with out even being in visual range. 100 ms would be fine if the game was properly coded"
"If you are going to change locations like this and have a large impact on a large amount of people, free transfers should be offered. This is not fair from a business standpoint. Some people are considering pulling the preoder for SB and cancel sub to to this change was not handled with care"

I hope you have big changes for SB to allow DPS to get the most out of DPS rotations out of high ping because the current state is not possible and you lowered the amount of people able to do so.

In short the game is simply worse with the move for more people then it helped.

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

Actually, from start of 2.0 they had the EU servers just not an EU datacentre. SE said numerous times that you would get a better ping on these servers. This was all before houses were even implemented.

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No. EU Servers Where still US Servers. Only that they Where called EU so that You could meet people in your timezone. Thats all.

Yeah, without a VPN my ping is slightly higher on NA servers now than EU, and I live in western NY. I average 127, but my average should be around 85. It's routing me to NYC first before doubling back and going to Seattle and then Sacramento. With Pingzapper I drop to 87, but it's spiking a lot, and I don't want to pay $10/month for WTFast on top of my $17 sub. :/ Hoping it'll stop traveling several hundred miles out of the way soon. I can deal with 85-90ms, but MCH feels really clunky at 130.

If 100 ms is unplayable, i guess i havent been able to play much at all since release. Oh wait, i did just fine.

If i can double weave with greased lightning 3 up on 100+ then anyone can double weave lol, and i dont even main monk.

People having the AUDACITY of tell EU players to suck it up are plain STUPID and THICK.

We were giving the chance to transfer when the EU servers went up. Some us transferred but some of us stayed DUE TO THE FACT our game latency wasn't bad at all.So we stayed

EU PLAYERS ON NA SERVERS ARENT AT FAULT IN THE SLIGHTEST. Why? Because we didn't ask for the move,we didn't complaint once our game latency.NOW that they decided to move the servers to improve stability it's a great idea BUT they should of known that this was gonna affect players NOT only from EU but from South America too.

And let's NOT forget, on EU is not just about moving freely to any given server we have a HUGE language barrier(EU is not all English (English is a fraction of it, we have french German Spanish Italian Greek Arabic etc etc)this is ANOTHER reason why some EU people (birtish)mainly decided to stick on a NA server.


So stop making IDIOTIC comments regarding that EU players being at fault cause that's a MORONIC logic