Isn't it verified by Yoshida announcing Rogue and Ninja?Quote:
Originally Posted by Exstal
NINJA and ROGUE confirmed
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06-22-2014, 05:48 PMRyans
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06-22-2014, 05:51 PMRadacci
this is just mind boggling...
ppl are *speculating* about ROG using dex, to the extent that you turn it into a semi-job, where it got skills that NIN cant use...just so you can match your XI dex THF job image, into XIV ROG....
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06-22-2014, 06:09 PMGrizzlebeardIf anything the FFXI Thief was an Agility class with gear macros for Strength when you weaponskilled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radacci
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06-22-2014, 06:51 PMReynhartCan we close this pointless debate about what Thief was in FFXI since we're not in FFXI and we don't have the same stats in XIV ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard
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06-22-2014, 07:22 PMGrizzlebeardI don't know, can we?Quote:
Originally Posted by Reynhart
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06-22-2014, 09:17 PMFirepower
Well judging from the Info datamined from the patch on this page:
http://xivdb.com/?search/!patch-Patch2.28
the skills listed go something like this (Google Translate and then I paraphrase a little) so please forgive me for any major inaccuracies:
lv - 8 - dex +2
lv 14 - fall dmg down
lv 16 - dex +4
lv 20 - reduced the movement speed reduction from stealth
lv 24 - dex +6
lv 28 - Increased movement speed
lv 32 - 20% dmg effect up specialised poison buff (highly toxic)
lv 36 - increased tp regen
lv 40 - 10% dmg effect up multiple specialised poison buff
lv 44 - 45 potency dot combo B-1
lv 48 - 80 potency knife throwing damage (PBAE?)
As much as I don't wan't Rogue to be dex based this seems to be what is there. But who knows none of it is implemented and could be changed at any point between now and 2.4 -
06-22-2014, 09:56 PMLoLoI read this more than twice and I still can't seem to understand what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radacci
Either way, its on topic to discuss possible jobs that come from Rogue. I love how up in arms some people get at the thought of a Thief Job. So odd, so weird. -
06-22-2014, 10:02 PMUrielparadox
Well lets look at classic rogue and ninja jobs and how they work, we don't even have to look just inside FF. They both use low damage and high critical hit rates/damage to do their dps; they use str as their main stat but dex can often be an equally good stat sometimes on par with str. looking at it this way it would 100% make perfect since for Rogue/ninja to wear str gear and get dex traits to supplement it's crit damage instead of it's base damage.
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06-22-2014, 11:02 PMsilentwindfr
exept dex don't affect critical chance in anyway, that the point, i don't see why we debat on this anymore... 2 reason to this:
1) the game actually goes with if you are a melee you use STR and if you are ranged physical dps you go with DEX, ninja being a melee dps (from what we have seen) it naturally fall into STR case
2) and it's the most important one, if Ninja is dex based, one of the most ninja look like armor of the game (the fuma armor from CT) will not be for the ninja! that will be a nonsense soo bad! -
06-22-2014, 11:12 PMKuroyashaBecause Yoshi already said that Thief doesn't fall in line with the lore so they went with Rogue; They are ones who used to be thieves. This is from Yoshi P at E3. That is why.Quote:
Originally Posted by LoLo
Yep. He clearly stated that since it's a melee-dps that one should save their gear. Thus, monk is the only that makes since, especially given the ninja ct gear. Cant wait. Only 4 gear pieces away from full 110 myself :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Authority