FFXIV: A Realm Reborn [-' BENCHMARK '-] Post HERE your scores and comments!

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Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild

Yea, but Im seeing scores close to 10000 @ max resolution! I Just built this thing recently. I want MORE POWER!!!!!!! lol

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I understand that need. My eye is twitching with anger. I have TWO 580's in SLI and I won't be able to know my real benchmark because there is no SLI/Full screen support on the benchmark.

LOL

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Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild

Both runs done on Max settings. The only difference is the resolutions.

System:
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130104-1431)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3960X CPU @ 3.30GHz
16360.219MB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580(VRAM 2751 MB) 9.18.0013.0697

http://25.media.tumblr.com/f91cbf366...olxo1_1280.jpg

and

http://24.media.tumblr.com/1c98d9132...olxo2_1280.jpg

Hmmmmm I dont like that hit I take at the higher resolution. What do I have to upgrade to improve this? The Graphics card I assume?

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get a 660 ti, run you like 270 or so. Should put you over 7k easily

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=113

well i tried downlading winzip winrar and renaming the file my laptop wont run the benchmark. looks like i wasted 1600 dollars on this laptop for nothing

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Originally Posted by dbrewer225

well i tried downlading winzip winrar and renaming the file my laptop wont run the benchmark. looks like i wasted 1600 dollars on this laptop for nothing

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You don't have to rename the file.

Download it from Square website and it should already be a .zip
Once you have winzip or winrar installed, right click on the file and choose to unzip it to a location.

Then browse the file for the .exe to run the benchmark.

@dbrewer: This makes no sense. Did you unzip the file so it's in a regular folder? On win7, you don't even need to DL any new programs since it does it all for you (right-click on the ZIP & select "Extract All..."). You can't just go into the zip file like it's a folder & try to run it. Also make sure you have DirectX 9 installed. (It'll tell you if you don't have it installed when you try to run it.)

B******s!! I thought I had a really score as well. while i don't screen lock i have noticed the screen does on occassion go white for a few seconds at first i just thought it was loading the next part but i'm going to redownload it and try again

New challenge: Get lower than 1677 with every setting as low as possible.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:21/02/2013 19:49:58
Score:4423
Average Framerate:35.815
Performance:High
-Easily capable of running the game. Should perform well, even at higher resolutions.

Screen Size: 1600x1000
Graphics Presets: Maximum
General
-Improve overall graphic quality. : Enabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Disabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects to increase performance. (LOD) : Disabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Disabled
-Smooth edges. (Anti-aliasing) : Enabled
-Increase transparent lighting quality. : Enabled
-Grass Quality : High
Shadows
-Use low-detail models on shadows to increase performance. (LOD) : Disabled
-Display : All
-Shadow Resolution : High: 2048 pixels
-Shadow Cascading : High
-Shadow Softening : High
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : High
-Anisotropic Filtering : High
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Enabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Enabled
-Effects While in Motion : Display All
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : High
-Glare : Normal
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Enabled

System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80GHz
6139.492MB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460(VRAM 3807 MB) 8.17.0012.9610

Benchmark results do not provide any guarantee FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn will run on your system.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Website http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/?lang=uk
(C) 2010-2013 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved.

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Originally Posted by Meatdawg

get a 660 ti, run you like 270 or so. Should put you over 7k easily

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=113

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wierd our specs are almost identical and im getting 1k less than you *sad face*

Score:5806
Average Framerate:47.966
Performance:Very High

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.130104-1435)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz
16351.133MB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (VRAM 4042 MB) 9.18.0013.1407

I let my Desktop PC with GTX 570 battle my Alienware with a GTX680M using this benchmark!
All Max. Window Size: 1680x1050
GTX 570: 4934
GTX 680M: 5468

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWQP8yqhmRA&hd=1
Sorry, forgot to insert battle sounds, explosions etc

Did anyone besides me get a chuckle out of Grass Resolution XD

I wonder if people who were (seriously) complaining about the Bad Graphix Grass can even display it.

i have downloaded the winzip and its still not letting me get the benchmark

I can forgive the grass, but I found the sunglare too weak

I think i did overly good with Max and am happy of my results long as it runs nicely that's all that matters
FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:2/21/2013 12:46:39 PM
Score:4670
Average Framerate:37.574
Performance:High
-Easily capable of running the game. Should perform well, even at higher resolutions.

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Graphics Presets: Maximum
General
-Improve overall graphic quality. : Enabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Disabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects to increase performance. (LOD) : Disabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Disabled
-Smooth edges. (Anti-aliasing) : Enabled
-Increase transparent lighting quality. : Enabled
-Grass Quality : High
Shadows
-Use low-detail models on shadows to increase performance. (LOD) : Disabled
-Display : All
-Shadow Resolution : High: 2048 pixels
-Shadow Cascading : High
-Shadow Softening : High
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : High
-Anisotropic Filtering : High
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Enabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Enabled
-Effects While in Motion : Display All
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : High
-Glare : Normal
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Enabled

System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130104-1431)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz
6135.078MB
ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series(VRAM 3823 MB) 8.17.0010.1077

I wonder what the reps scores are?

Did the test one last time, tweaked with the screen size, came back as low instead of v low. Gonna call the guys who made my PC tomorrow.

Average Framerate:9.619
Performance:Low
-Capable of running the game, but will experience considerable slowdown. Adjusting settings is unlikely to improve performance.

Screen Size: 1024x768
Graphics Presets: Custom
General
-Improve overall graphic quality. : Disabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Enabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Enabled
-Smooth edges. (Anti-aliasing) : Disabled
-Increase transparent lighting quality. : Disabled
-Grass Quality : Off
Shadows
-Use low-detail models on shadows to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Display : Personal and Environmental
-Shadow Resolution : Low: 512 pixels
-Shadow Cascading : Off
-Shadow Softening : Low
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : Low
-Anisotropic Filtering : Low
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Disabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Enabled
-Effects While in Motion : Display None
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : Off
-Glare : Off
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Disabled

System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130104-1431)
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7600 @ 3.06GHz
3327.180MB
NVIDIA GeForce 210 (VRAM 2386 MB) 9.18.0013.0697

Benchmark results do not provide any guarantee FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn will run on your system.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Website http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/?lang=uk
(C) 2010-2013 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved.

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Originally Posted by dbrewer225

i have downloaded the winzip and its still not letting me get the benchmark

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Looks like you should just get the ps3 version. Lulz.

lol i give up on doing benchmark. wont let me do it

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Originally Posted by dbrewer225

i have downloaded the winzip and its still not letting me get the benchmark

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check it out, you have win 7 so dont need anything else.

DL the zip from SE

make sure to click save not run

when its done, click open folder

THen double click on the application

an extraction prompt pops up

do eet, (i put mine on my ssd but Desktop works fine)

It will unzip everything where you told it too

Right click on it and run as admin

Let me know if more problems

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Originally Posted by PLD_Danny1989

System:


Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7600 @ 3.06GHz


NVIDIA GeForce 210 (VRAM 2386 MB) 9.18.0013.0697

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but the GPU more so than the CPU, upgrade your video card.

these are your problems

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Originally Posted by AceCross

I think i did overly good with Max and am happy of my results long as it runs nicely that's all that matters

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set it to high settings and you will hardly notice the difference and get a higher score. Only thing that i noticed was the shadows

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Originally Posted by Doki

New challenge: Get lower than 1677 with every setting as low as possible.

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Challenge Accepted:

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:2/21/2013 3:16:32 PM
Score:1221
Average Framerate:9.773
Performance:Low
-Capable of running the game, but will experience considerable slowdown. Adjusting settings is unlikely to improve performance.

Screen Size: 1024x768
Graphics Presets: Custom
General
-Improve overall graphic quality. : Disabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Enabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Enabled
-Smooth edges. (Anti-aliasing) : Disabled
-Increase transparent lighting quality. : Disabled
-Grass Quality : Off
Shadows
-Use low-detail models on shadows to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Display : Environmental
-Shadow Resolution : Low: 512 pixels
-Shadow Cascading : Off
-Shadow Softening : Low
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : Low
-Anisotropic Filtering : Low
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Disabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Disabled
-Effects While in Motion : Display None
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : Off
-Glare : Off
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Disabled

System:
Windows 8 Pro 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.130108-1504)
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5250 @ 1.50GHz
4094.426MB
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS(VRAM 2028 MB) 9.18.0013.1396

Benchmark results do not provide any guarantee FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn will run on your system.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Website http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com
(C) 2010-2013 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved.

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LIKE A BOSS

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:2/21/2013 11:49:13 AM
Score:8358
Average Framerate:72.857
Performance:Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Graphics Presets: Maximum
General
-Improve overall graphic quality. : Enabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Disabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects to increase performance. (LOD) : Disabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Disabled
-Smooth edges. (Anti-aliasing) : Enabled
-Increase transparent lighting quality. : Enabled
-Grass Quality : High
Shadows
-Use low-detail models on shadows to increase performance. (LOD) : Disabled
-Display : All
-Shadow Resolution : High: 2048 pixels
-Shadow Cascading : High
-Shadow Softening : High
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : High
-Anisotropic Filtering : High
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Enabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Enabled
-Effects While in Motion : Display All
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : High
-Glare : Normal
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Enabled

System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz
6135.109MB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670(VRAM 4042 MB) 9.18.0013.0697

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z...976/123123.jpg
my body will be ready

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Originally Posted by Altanas

I can forgive the grass, but I found the sunglare too weak

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I took it off because the fact that I didn't have to squint or wear my shades kinda took away from the experience.

It's pointless if it doesn't harm your eyes to stare at it.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:2/21/2013 1:28:56 PM
Score:7006
Average Framerate:56.167
Performance:Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.

Screen Size: 1280x720
Graphics Presets: High

System:
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130104-1431)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
12248.945MB
AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series(VRAM 3797 MB) 8.17.0010.117


YEAHHH!! OMG CANT WAIT FOR GAME RELEASE!! :D

Score:5960
Average Framerate:49.595
Performance: Very High
-Easily capable of running the game. Should perform exceptionally well, even at higher resolutions.

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Graphics Presets: Maximum

System:
Windows 8 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.121119-1606)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz
16328.977MB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (VRAM 4042 MB) 9.18.0013.1070

I looked up overclocking and ran it again. (Since I never had done it before. Been a console gamer always. FFXIV is my first real PC game) So i followed a guide to slightly overclock. And that Increased my Score. I assume since the temp of the GPU never went above 60 that I could overclock it more if I wanted? (anyone more familiar with overclocking know?) But I decided to play safe since there was no need to go higher.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/1d28b7668...olxo1_1280.jpg

I do plan to get a better graphics card. The One I got was kinda a starter card.

Well, I guess I won't have to worry about whether my PC can run the game or not this time. >.>;

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FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:2/22/2013 6:01:12 AM
Score:8146
Average Framerate:69.171
Performance:Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.

Screen Size: 1280x1024
Graphics Presets: Maximum

System:
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130104-1431)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
16296.570MB
AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series(VRAM 2745 MB) 8.17.0010.1172

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Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild

I looked up overclocking and ran it again. (Since I never had done it before. Been a console gamer always. FFXIV is my first real PC game) So i followed a guide to slightly overclock. And that Increased my Score. I assume since the temp of the GPU never went above 60 that I could overclock it more if I wanted? (anyone more familiar with overclocking know?) But I decided to play safe since there was no need to go higher.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/1d28b7668...olxo1_1280.jpg

I do plan to get a better graphics card. The One I got was kinda a starter card.

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Nice improvement. I have never overclocked a video card myself. Perhaps I will do some reading about it.

Care to provide the guide you used?

Benches only count in 1920x1080 and Max everything.

Custom Score: 11606 1600x900 (this is big as screen supports)
Maximum Score: 7986 1600x900

I will run the custom settings, cause the game looks amazing at those settings. No reason to work the hell out of Vid card when I personally cant make out that much of a difference. :/

Specs:
Intel I-7 960 OC'd 4.0 Ghz
Sabertooth X58 MoBo
12 GB G. skill Ripjaw Ram 1600 Mhz
EVGA GTX 560 SC

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Originally Posted by SirOleas

Nice improvement. I have never overclocked a video card myself. Perhaps I will do some reading about it.

Care to provide the guide you used?

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Just google: <your card> optimal overclock msi afterburner

I did that search and found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5pLU82isFk

But find one for your card.

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Originally Posted by Faiyez

Benches only count in 1920x1080 and Max everything.

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huh?

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Did anyone besides me get a chuckle out of Grass Resolution XD

I wonder if people who were (seriously) complaining about the Bad Graphix Grass can even display it.

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I did! It was the first thing i noticed when that window opened.

OP: 6110 score running with a new rig but an older g-card. Nvidia GTS 250 isnt the greatest. Wondering if i should buy a second identicle card and run 2 or just spend the cheddar on a bettar one. Decisions, decisions.....

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Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild

Just google: <your card> optimal overclock msi afterburner

I did that search and found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5pLU82isFk

But find one for your card.

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Thanks :)
/10char

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Originally Posted by Biggs

I did! It was the first thing i noticed when that window opened.

OP: 6110 score running with a new rig but an older g-card. Nvidia GTS 250 isnt the greatest. Wondering if i should buy a second identicle card and run 2 or just spend the cheddar on a bettar one. Decisions, decisions.....

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I would spend the extra cash. I had two GTS 250's in SLI before, not that great. You could find a good priced GTX 660 on either tigerdirect.com or newegg.com right now, this would be most beneficial.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:2/21/2013 11:58:06 AM
Score:4209
Average Framerate:35.058
Performance:High
-Easily capable of running the game. Should perform well, even at higher resolutions.

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Graphics Presets: Maximum
General
-Improve overall graphic quality. : Enabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Disabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects to increase performance. (LOD) : Disabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Disabled
-Smooth edges. (Anti-aliasing) : Enabled
-Increase transparent lighting quality. : Enabled
-Grass Quality : High
Shadows
-Use low-detail models on shadows to increase performance. (LOD) : Disabled
-Display : All
-Shadow Resolution : High: 2048 pixels
-Shadow Cascading : High
-Shadow Softening : High
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : High
-Anisotropic Filtering : High
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Enabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Enabled
-Effects While in Motion : Display All
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : High
-Glare : Normal
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Enabled

System:
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130104-1431)
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
3325.941MB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (VRAM 2385 MB) 9.18.0013.0697

Benchmark results do not provide any guarantee FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn will run on your system.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Website http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com
(C) 2010-2013 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved.

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Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild

huh?

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Just when comparing i think they mean

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Exploration)
Tested on:2/21/2013 4:18:50 PM
Score:1392
Average Framerate:10.808
Performance:Low
-Capable of running the game, but will experience considerable slowdown. Adjusting settings is unlikely to improve performance.

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Graphics Presets: Custom
General
-Improve overall graphic quality. : Disabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Enabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Enabled
-Smooth edges. (Anti-aliasing) : Disabled
-Increase transparent lighting quality. : Disabled
-Grass Quality : Off
Shadows
-Use low-detail models on shadows to increase performance. (LOD) : Enabled
-Display : Environmental
-Shadow Resolution : Low: 512 pixels
-Shadow Cascading : Off
-Shadow Softening : Low
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : Low
-Anisotropic Filtering : Low
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Disabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Disabled
-Effects While in Motion : Display None
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : Off
-Glare : Off
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Disabled

System:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130104-1431)
Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E6600 @ 3.06GHz
3071.242MB
NVIDIA GeForce GT 620(VRAM 2258 MB) 9.18.0013.0697

Benchmark results do not provide any guarantee FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn will run on your system.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Website http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com
(C) 2010-2013 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved.

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Yes i know its low >.>

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Originally Posted by SinisterJoint

but the GPU more so than the CPU, upgrade your video card.

these are your problems

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Yeah, doing so next week. Calling the guys who made my pc tomorrow to see if its possible if I purchased the parts and they install them so I don't void the insurance.