New coliseum gear too lewd

this is a ridiculous post. if you dont like the gear dont wear it. this stuff is by far pretty tame compared to what else is out there in other games. more than half of Teras gear set for female characters is practically naked with only a butt crack and nipples being covered and people dont complain about that. this gear set is literally the bikini set from last summer WITH more fabric added to it. so technically last year was worse. No ones going to complain about this to the point where its actually going to make a difference. Im not trying to be rude but one person out of the entire community being offended by a bathing suit isnt going to make a difference.... im sure there are way more things to worry about in your life than a video game character in a bikini.

It's always entertaining to read how some people feel it is "mature" or "adult" to get off on the fleshy curves of a cartoon. "Mature" and "Adult" material are the biggest misnomers in the history of the language. They usually mean exactly the opposite. But alas, that is a culture trend that the few among us that reject it are going to have very little power to counter. Thus happens to be the reign of the Lowest Common Denominator.

Having said that, I want to comment on the OP: a) I feel the post is sincere and far from trolling. b) She is entitled to her opinion and her discomfort. I am sure many (both men and women, myself included) are sympathetic to most, if not all, of it, at the most basic level. That doesn't mean we would share her attitudes, but neither does it mean we would condemn them. And finally, c) If we were indeed mature and adult, we would know better than deal with her admittedly strong words with corrosive and unhelpful epithets, and tell her to "shut it."

Market Share is a powerful motivator, and the Market has spoken! Yoshida has shown he is far from a purist, and I'm sure both the company's upper echelons at its headquarters, and its shareholders are celebrating. We definitely do not live in an ideal world, when we are married to the Market.

R

lolpuritanismlol

It's not like you don't have other options of what gear to wear...

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Originally Posted by Rutelor

It's always entertaining to read how some people feel it is "mature" or "adult" to get off on the fleshy curves of a cartoon. "Mature" and "Adult" material are the biggest misnomers in the history of the language.

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It's less about maturity and more about discerning what goes on in a video game and how things are done in real life.

Seriously, the OP sounds too much like those people that blame violence on music and video games.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

It's less about maturity and more about discerning what goes on in a video game and how things are done in real life.

Seriously, the OP sounds too much like those people that blame violence on music and video games.

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You mean they DON'T?! holy shit where the hell have i been living all my life.... fuck i think it's time to crawl out from under this rock

jk sorry I get really sarcastic sometimes and thought it would be funny to say that... my humor lacks so i shall hide in a corner now *goes off sulking*

I've seen so many guys showing off their stuff here...
But not a single one in the mage Coliseum gear yet!

Come on, where are the battlefield scholars? Do not be shy, I do not bite (unless you ask me to)

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Originally Posted by Rutelor

It's always entertaining to read how some people feel it is "mature" or "adult" to get off on the fleshy curves of a cartoon. "Mature" and "Adult" material are the biggest misnomers in the history of the language. They usually mean exactly the opposite. But alas, that is a culture trend that the few among us that reject it are going to have very little power to counter. Thus happens to be the reign of the Lowest Common Denominator.

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It amazes me how people just think they can redefine certain words to suit their special utopian worldviews. Here's a hint: maturity is about being able to act mature around the bad stuff just as much, about being able to tolerate the things you don't like. Maturity most certainly is not about wearing something just because a group of people say to or just acting a certain way because someone or a group of people find it offensive.

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Originally Posted by Rutelor

It's always entertaining to read how some people feel it is "mature" or "adult" to get off on the fleshy curves of a cartoon. "Mature" and "Adult" material are the biggest misnomers in the history of the language. They usually mean exactly the opposite. But alas, that is a culture trend that the few among us that reject it are going to have very little power to counter. Thus happens to be the reign of the Lowest Common Denominator.

Having said that, I want to comment on the OP: a) I feel the post is sincere and far from trolling. b) She is entitled to her opinion and her discomfort. I am sure many (both men and women, myself included) are sympathetic to most, if not all, of it, at the most basic level. That doesn't mean we would share her attitudes, but neither does it mean we would condemn them. And finally, c) If we were indeed mature and adult, we would know better than deal with her admittedly strong words with corrosive and unhelpful epithets, and tell her to "shut it."

Market Share is a powerful motivator, and the Market has spoken! Yoshida has shown he is far from a purist, and I'm sure both the company's upper echelons at its headquarters, and its shareholders are celebrating. We definitely do not live in an ideal world, when we are married to the Market.

R

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You clearly don't know the meaning behind the label of mature and adult. It is opposed to CHILD. No, half naked chicks are absolutely not something children should be allowed to see. But if adults wish to see it, they should be allowed to see it. And 'mature' is physically mature, not necessarily emotionally or mentally mature. And physically mature is just a synonym for an adult.

So yes...half naked chicks are more adult content, as it is not for kids.

In a world where more and more men behave as women and women behave as men it is really offensive to put sexy clothes on a female body!!!!

not as long as it's done tastefully

I am a proud supporter of Neomarl threads. Such awesome responses.

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Originally Posted by Skies

I've seen so many guys showing off their stuff here...
But not a single one in the mage Coliseum gear yet!

Come on, where are the battlefield scholars? Do not be shy, I do not bite (unless you ask me to)

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Don't quote my favorite Wench from the miners guild....but okay just a nibble.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

http://imageupload.ca/?di=ZDIH

...This is blatant objectifying of women in general...

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I thought men could wear this as well. I don't see how it's an attack against women. I thought it was just as skimpy on men.

New coliseum gear too gewd.

Sorry I don't see anything wrong with the gears xD lolz even if they are flashy I like it.

if you dont like it dont use it. hard huh?

Neomarl must have also hated the swimsuits and made a thread just like this one right, because they use the exact same model.

right?

..?

No?

Well then this thread is bad and you should feel bad.

I do have to admit, it is funny how some people here scoff at the idea of FFXIV moving to resemble cookie cutter MMOs, but it's totally cool when it comes to putting ladies in the most cliché of fantasy/MMO outfits. /snicker Other than that, I'm not touching this thread!

/em grabs the hand lotion.

*Censorship*

Dang girl you look good! lol

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Originally Posted by ShinChuck

I do have to admit, it is funny how some people here scoff at the idea of FFXIV moving to resemble cookie cutter MMOs, but it's totally cool when it comes to putting ladies in the most cliché of fantasy/MMO outfits. /snicker Other than that, I'm not touching this thread!

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Nonobobo. Where is my whip and neck chain?!

My girlfriend actually wants to full-time this stuff. She wants to meld a ton of INT and Magic Materia to them and make it her full time BLM gear.

Why?

"Because I look sexy in it" she says.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

I am totally disgusted about this new gear. Why would you do such a thing SquareEnix?
Is this the direction that the game will be going in 2.0 - A Real Reborn? You're taking fanservice WAY too far.

Take a look for yourself:
http://imageupload.ca/?di=ZDIH


How can this even protect you in battle? This is blatant objectifying of women in general and I am appalled at how Yoshi P. can even support this.

Please either change this to cover up more of then skin/remove it, or I won't be resubscribing for 2.0.

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Looks pretty good to me, I think it's covering up to much. But thats me, just sayian.

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Originally Posted by Rannie

Wow that's kind of harsh. A person has a right to be upset if they weren't asked just as much of a right if someone took a picture i posted or something I did and posted it somewhere else I'd be pissed and upset as well. Asking someone for permission is called common courtesy.

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I don't think it's harsh at all. You have no rights to your in-game screenshots, Square Enix owns them all. If you got upset that something you posted because you thought it was awesome was made fun of by someone else, then I'd laugh at you, too.

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Originally Posted by trinta

I don't think it's harsh at all. You have no rights to your in-game screenshots, Square Enix owns them all. If you got upset that something you posted because you thought it was awesome was made fun of by someone else, then I'd laugh at you, too.

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it's not a matter of rights it's a matter of being polite and yes it was harsh basically you told the person in lesser terms that if they didn't like it to fuck off and leave. Yeah you're not a human being then and have no compassion i feel sorry for you good bye little fly. And by the way Karma's a bitch. and she was at right to be upset again common courtesy which it seems you lack as well.

It's called common courtesy something that the OP seems to lack

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Originally Posted by Rannie

it's not a matter of rights it's a matter of being polite and yes it was harsh basically you told the person in lesser terms that if they didn't like it to fuck off and leave. Yeah you're not a human being then and have no compassion i feel sorry for you good bye little fly. And by the way Karma's a bitch.

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lol, you're cute.

You realize we're not actually talking about a picture of the person, right?

....right?

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Originally Posted by trinta

I don't think it's harsh at all. You have no rights to your in-game screenshots, Square Enix owns them all. If you got upset that something you posted because you thought it was awesome was made fun of by someone else, then I'd laugh at you, too.

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There is truth in this. And everyone already knows you do not own your screenshot blah blah blah.

But if someone comes to you, let's you know they are uncomfortable with you using their persona in a certain way, and you ignore it... Well that just makes you a huge jerk.

Legally you did nothing wrong, but you are still a jerk.

and you're point being? I could care less that was a character that was created by someone else, if they wanted to use someone as an example then they should have used themselves or asked. I'm not stupid honey but I know what empathy is and courtesy. this is directed at Trinta

That is not "sexy," but more like "prostitution skimpy."

No wonder this world is getting more and more fucked up.

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Originally Posted by Rannie

and you're point being? I could care less that was a character that was created someone else if they wanted to use someone as an example then they should have used themselves or asked. I'm not stupid honey but I know what empathy is and courtesy this is directed at Trinta

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So you think that your video game character that looks exactly like 100 other video game characters, is the same thing as the person who plays it?

You think that you're entitled to "courtesy" with regard to it? What if your character appears in the background of a shot of my character? Do I need your permission before posting it?

You're right that I have no compassion for anyone who cries over their video game character being used. The complaint and its defenders truly make me laugh. Please, keep it up.

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Originally Posted by trinta

So you think that your video game character that looks exactly like 100 other video game characters, is the same thing as the person who plays it?

You think that you're entitled to "courtesy" with regard to it? What if your character appears in the background of a shot of my character? Do I need your permission before posting it?

You're right that I have no compassion for anyone who cries over their video game character being used. The complaint and its defenders truly make me laugh. Please, keep it up.

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Then may the same happen to you. Because like I said karma's a bitch. Goodbye

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Originally Posted by Rannie

Then may the same happen to you. Because like I said karma's a bitch. Goodbye

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Feel free to stalk my character and take screens all day, lulz. Won't bother me in the slightest.

Trinta and Rannie: stop it! You guys are arguing about silly stuff and is off topic.

So sit back, relax, and stop filling this thread with spam!

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Originally Posted by Irzibe

That is not "sexy," but more like "prostitution skimpy."

No wonder this world is getting more and more fucked up.

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the world is "fucked up" because presumably male game designers created a sexy piece of gear in a video game? you must be religious, only they could say something so ridiculous

OH NOES, I CAN SEEZ TEH UNDERBEWBIES! MY PURE MIND HATH BEEN SULLIED.

Seriously, if you find this gear offensive, its probably because:
A) You don't have the tits in real life and thus feel offended.
B) You've had a catholic upbringing and find the human(oid) form offensive and shameful.
C) You're a prude for no good reason.
4) You're merely stupid, and have atleast provided us with lulz.

Just think, it could be a string thing with 3 little patches over the naughty bits. Your butthurt in this regard is unreasonable.

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Originally Posted by Ricky

the world is "fucked up" because presumably male game designers created a sexy piece of gear in a video game? you must be religious, only they could say something so ridiculous

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There's a difference between sexy wear that you put on infront of others in public, and ones that you put on indoors for your partner.

When you see a half naked girl walking out in the streets wearing something like what the OP posted, YOU tell me if that's skimpy or not.

Edit: Oh oh and let's just be clear here:

I have no problem with that outfit what so ever, but "sexy" it ain't. I only say that because it's something that you're showing off to a multitude of people. THAT'S why I'm saying the world is fucked up; People don't have standards anymore, and not because of including it in the game...

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Originally Posted by MoarLegion

OH NOES, I CAN SEEZ TEH UNDERBEWBIES! MY PURE MIND HATH BEEN SULLIED.

Seriously, if you find this gear offensive, its probably because:
A) You don't have the tits in real life and thus feel offended.
B) You've had a catholic upbringing and find the human(oid) form offensive and shameful.
C) You're a prude for no good reason.
4) You're merely stupid, and have atleast provided us with lulz.

Just think, it could be a string thing with 3 little patches over the naughty bits. Your butthurt in this regard is unreasonable.

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I satisfy A - C and I don't see any thing wrong with having a few pieces of gear like this in the game for those that want it. You'll never catch me wearing it though.

I think #4 might be the biggest problem.

At least its named Coliseum gear in this game.
Just don't make my character wear pom pom dresses as "end-game" gear (like in Aion) and I'll be happy.

These are MMOs we're talking about. After playing games like AION I'm surprised we didn't have more gear like that aside from subligars and swimsuits. Chainmail bikinis are to be expected, unfortunately.