Please stop hiding miqo'te ears (and other races') from certain head gear

I don't want an ear toggle, but I still wouldn't mind a tail toggle... Let me hide my tail under a cape rather than poking it through it.

The newest headgear addition to the online store does not show miqo'te ears and the description mentions that it won't display for viera or hrothgar (perhaps this will change in 7.3 for viera).

Yeah, and Miqo'te heads can look absolutely ridiculous with big hats because the ears being hidden means they can't "outbalance" the fact that the hat easily protrudes like two inches from your character's hair.

I would sincerely love for my ears to be visible more often. There are a few hats I absolutely love, but I can't stand the way my ears vanish or we get those weird ear protrusions that look ridiculous.

One thing that I hate more about miqo'te ears not showing on headwear that could have holes is the stupid 'ear pockets'.

One particular glam that I really like is Firion's bandana, but it's horrible on a miqo'te because of those pockets that won't even match your ear's size.

I'm on opposite side: i like that the ears are tucked into the hat and don't clip through. I even prefer that over proper holes for the ears as they defeat the purpose of protecting the head from heat or rain.

In fact, i even wanna go as far as hiding the tail clipping through gear unless it's properly tucked under dresses. Unless pants or shorts have actual proper tailored orifice for the tail like a lot of the 1.0 gear has i'd rather it hide instead of clip. And dresses/skirts should just have the tail go under them.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

One thing that I hate more about miqo'te ears not showing on headwear that could have holes is the stupid 'ear pockets'.

One particular glam that I really like is Firion's bandana, but it's horrible on a miqo'te because of those pockets that won't even match your ear's size.

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Oh yeah i hate ear pockets, i would never wear anything like that.

I mean, you do you, but the reason why it makes no reason for Miqo'te ears to be tucked in is that they're cat ears. Functional cat ears, even. Also, they wiggle during emotes.

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Originally Posted by 0blivion

I mean, you do you, but the reason why it makes no reason for Miqo'te ears to be tucked in is that they're cat ears. Functional cat ears, even. Also, they wiggle during emotes.

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I suspect this may be the underlying reason why cats rarely wear hats.

Like most of the counter-examples derive from Dr. Seuss.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

One thing that I hate more about miqo'te ears not showing on headwear that could have holes is the stupid 'ear pockets'.

One particular glam that I really like is Firion's bandana, but it's horrible on a miqo'te because of those pockets that won't even match your ear's size.

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I think most of us agree that showing the ears pop up directly through a hole is more desirable than the ear socks.

In the event in which this isn't possible or logical, ear socks can be considered and on a case by case basis. Additionally, they can always just give us a toggle to show or hide both ears and socks to satisfy everyone.

What is not acceptable is the total lack of care for several years now when it comes to ears and tails.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

I think most of us agree that showing the ears pop up directly through a hole is more desirable than the ear socks.

In the event in which this isn't possible or logical, ear socks can be considered and on a case by case basis. Additionally, they can always just give us a toggle to show or hide both ears and socks to satisfy everyone.

What is not acceptable is the total lack of care for several years now when it comes to ears and tails.

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Oh, I adore ear socks, but I 100% think it should be a case-by-case basis. For example, I think they look great on the Dravanian Tricorne model!

https://i.imgur.com/EA0JPzO.png

But holes are absolutely preferable for things like the straw hats.

https://i.imgur.com/NfEbKZE.png

But I strongly believe that either option is better than my ears disappearing altogether, and I'd be willing to take holes over ear socks on headwear going forward if that's the majority opinion.

Bumping due to a recent Reddit thread bringing attention to this issue happening again with the upcoming PvP gear.

make that tails as well, more options for tails or some kind of tail armor on gear of us races that has a Tail, which is Hrothgar, Miqo and Aura, and possible Viera as well.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

make that tails as well, more options for tails or some kind of tail armor on gear of us races that has a Tail, which is Hrothgar, Miqo and Aura, and possible Viera as well.

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The one time (that I know of) that they put our tails in "armor" it was horrendous! I am referring to the Evenstar Coat. I would wear that thing if my tail were freed from the sausage casing. It's especially odd for AuRa since they have different tail shapes but they still get the sausage.

I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, but if they do, it needs to be done tastefully. It needs to be appropriate for the tail, and there should be a way to switch it on and off.

Respect my ears and my tail!

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Originally Posted by Aco505

Gear from Stormblood onward that covers the entire head tends to fully hide the ears of miqo'te.

In the past, this wasn't the case most of the time, as headpieces would often have holes for the ears to stick out or ear socks for them to stick in that sprouted out of the specific piece.

Headpieces such as the Calfskin Rider's Cap or the Street Cap, for example, are perfect candidates to get holes so that the ears can stick out but right now they entirely hide the ears of miqo'te instead, thus making it the only race that loses part of their racial features with this. Of course, viera and hrothgar can't even use them but would probably have similar issues if they could.

This is not a problem exclusive to miqo'te, viera or hrothgar however as some headpieces will also hide elezen and lalafell ears due to their size.

With the graphical update coming and eventually affecting all gear pieces, I would ask the developer team to please revise all the head pieces that could be suitable for the addition of ear holes and socks for the aforementioned races and especially miqo'te, viera and hrothgar.

If some people prefer getting their ears hidden in these cases, they could always add a toggle option to satisfy everyone, as it seems that the gear is initially designed for hyur, a race without these traits, and then adapted to the rest.

However, this trend of hiding the ears should not continue, as it limits the options for these races by removing their racial traits.

Another recent trend in EW has been to hide tails from specific pieces of armor (link), which I find problematic as well because of the further removal of racial features.

If you agree, please show your support by liking and commenting this post!

Are there headpieces that you would like to wear but don't because they hide the ears? Which examples of headgear would you like to have with ear socks or holes? Which ones would you like staying as they are?

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I didn't even realize we had a thread dedicated this issue.

Agreed and upvote.

My Miqo'te ears and I support this request.

I believe most head pieces from the new dungeon hide miqo'te ears except for the Scouting (and possibly Striking?) ones due to the fact that they are eyepatches.

It's especially egregious now that the framework is in the game to toggle ears on headgear - but only for Viera.

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Originally Posted by Jaltaer

It's especially egregious now that the framework is in the game to toggle ears on headgear - but only for Viera.

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Agreed, although I'd prefer if the developers cared a teeny tiny bit and kept implementing ear holes (or socks where applicable) because the current Viera implementation just outright has ears clip through, which is disappointing considering how long it took them.

If someone doesn't want ear holes or socks for miqo'te and other races, a toggle to hide them completely like what Viera got would then satisfy everyone.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

The one time (that I know of) that they put our tails in "armor" it was horrendous! I am referring to the Evenstar Coat. I would wear that thing if my tail were freed from the sausage casing. It's especially odd for AuRa since they have different tail shapes but they still get the sausage.

I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, but if they do, it needs to be done tastefully. It needs to be appropriate for the tail, and there should be a way to switch it on and off.

Respect my ears and my tail!

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Like charr in GW2. Fantastic examples on tail armor.
https://i.imgur.com/lkItbAI.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/9Vpp0oH.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/uDcSQBQ.jpeg

Meanwhile in FFXIV random armors with garish capes or even armor with nothing, chops ours off.

Please add a show ears toggle for miqo'te too!

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Originally Posted by mallleable

Please add a show ears toggle for miqo'te too!

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Don't forget a tail toggle D:

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Originally Posted by MsQi

The one time (that I know of) that they put our tails in "armor" it was horrendous! I am referring to the Evenstar Coat. I would wear that thing if my tail were freed from the sausage casing. It's especially odd for AuRa since they have different tail shapes but they still get the sausage.

I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, but if they do, it needs to be done tastefully. It needs to be appropriate for the tail, and there should be a way to switch it on and off.

Respect my ears and my tail!

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There was a really nice DRG coat with proper rigged tail armor (can't remember when)

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Originally Posted by Roda

There was a really nice DRG coat with proper rigged tail armor (can't remember when)

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Found it, it's the level 80 gear. Tail looks great. I'm not a fan of the rest of the coat. I would love something like that on the level 50 gear.

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

Like charr in GW2. Fantastic examples on tail armor.
https://i.imgur.com/lkItbAI.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/9Vpp0oH.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/uDcSQBQ.jpeg

Meanwhile in FFXIV random armors with garish capes or even armor with nothing, chops ours off.

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Those are awesome.

There is an ear switch now for vierra on selected gear. They should make it work for other races too. A tail switch would be nice too.

Two other exceedingly rare case of Tail Armor is the level 9089 DRK set and the Radiant armors from EW, specifically the Fending and Maiming set.

Also took a picture of the lvl 80 DRG set as well
https://i.ibb.co/Pzv9PTYy/drk89.png
https://i.ibb.co/5XrXYfyW/radiantmaim.png
https://i.ibb.co/B5F40SYw/drg80.png


But the best we can hope to get generally is having the tail clip horribly through everything.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Two other exceedingly rare case of Tail Armor is the level 9089 DRK set and the Radiant armors from EW, specifically the Fending and Maiming set.

Also took a picture of the lvl 80 DRG set as well

But the best we can hope to get generally is having the tail clip horribly through everything.

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And then the Clouddark armors of Fending and Maiming had tail armor but hid them...

Well, we waited for the update where Vierra added a checkbox to show or hide ears in hats, caps, etc. BUT the Miqo'te still don't deserve it... sad..

The newest Star Captain's Hat from the 7.31 update of Cosmic Exploration also hides miqo'te ears.

I feel like if they outsource the item refurbishment to community modders, they would be faster with it and they would do it for free. They could make it a contest and set the rules.

(while we at it make a pvp armor design contest, because that modern gear is uff)

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Originally Posted by Aco505

The newest Star Captain's Hat from the 7.31 update of Cosmic Exploration also hides miqo'te ears.

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It also shows Viera ears and has a working on/off toggle for those. Gotta love how they went in and coded an entirely new UI addition for ear toggles and then only made it apply to a single race despite the Miqo ear amputation/squishing having been a problem for much longer.

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Originally Posted by Innio

Well, we waited for the update where Vierra added a checkbox to show or hide ears in hats, caps, etc. BUT the Miqo'te still don't deserve it... sad..

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I was a former catboy in the past, but the whole viera hat with ear toggle is a monkey's paw situation, like we ONLY got hats since this it was the easiest way to get it working or NO hats at all like we'll never get custom ear holes like miq in the past ever.

If SE does add the toggle for miq it means there's zero chance of any ear socks or custom ear holes in the future, which will be sacrificed to cut more corners.

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Originally Posted by CCheshire

I was a former catboy in the past, but the whole viera hat with ear toggle is a monkey's paw situation, like we ONLY got hats since this it was the easiest way to get it working or NO hats at all like we'll never get custom ear holes like miq in the past ever.

If SE does add the toggle for miq it means there's zero chance of any ear socks or custom ear holes in the future, which will be sacrificed to cut more corners.

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Agreed. The implementation for viera looks unfinished as the ears just clip through. If they are going to show, then they should design ear holes accordingly.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

Agreed. The implementation for viera looks unfinished as the ears just clip through. If they are going to show, then they should design ear holes accordingly.

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They did what players asked for 6 years ago. In the meantime amateur designers have done much better. It’s clearly not a priority.

ARR wins.

https://lds-img.finalfantasyxiv.com/...42bdbbf574.jpg

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/imag...ale-Elezen.png

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Originally Posted by Aco505

Agreed. The implementation for viera looks unfinished as the ears just clip through. If they are going to show, then they should design ear holes accordingly.

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Agreed like I would support custom ear holes on all old/new hats for all the eared races, but when I checked some hats out I realized few hats like Quaintrelle's it just completely vanished on his head since 1 ear would have to go completely through it making it look ugly. I mean thanks SE for enabling hats but it looks extremely rough for all the time we wasted waiting and even not all non-metal helm hats work including cash shop hats.

They're clipping my freaking tails now too
The new summertide dress that looks absolutely beautiful cuts my tail off for no good reason
STOP DOING THIS and just add a toggle in our character panel to toggle tails/ears on and off, clipping be damned. I'd rather it clip and see my tails and ears!

I agree, just give us the same switch for the ears and tail, give us the choice of whether to see the ears and tail in this or that outfit, rather than just turning us into Hyur without ears!

I agree to that 100% ♥

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Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

ARR wins.

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Ah, A Realm Reborn, back when the team was actually trying to do right by us on even the little things. Miss those days.

Bump to the front page again, now that it seems like the monster hunter gear deletes Miqo'te ears as well.

Would be nice if the devs or whoever collects feedback stopped ignoring this thread and gave us a toggle but that's probably asking too much...

Putting effort and designing ear holes would be far more preferable than a toggle that would just have them clip through like viera. We have to ask for a bit of quality or we'll get the bare minimum!

All of the new head pieces added in 7.35 (Hope gear -M and F versions- from the MH collab and the Fuath Plumed Hat) hide miqo'te ears.