Post Your Complete Garuda Weapon Set!

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

this thread is now about awesome vans again.

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Yo we got cut off last time...

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Originally Posted by Matsume

Yo we got cut off last time...

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http://www.carthrottle.com/wp-conten...ped-Van-13.jpg

i found a bunch of them by typing Japanese custom vans

From the "Fix Garuda" thread

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Originally Posted by Rydin

I wonder this....

At some point when the level cap is 99, BLMs will be able to go to Ifrit or Garuda and one shot them with one big Burstaga or something like that, therefore, skipping hellfire or Aerial blast completely...

Would that, also, be an exploit?

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Not trying to start a flame war, I think it's just a very good question

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Originally Posted by Rydin

From the "Fix Garuda" thread



Not trying to start a flame war, I think it's just a very good question

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Since their fights are exclusive to 1.0, I doubt it. They did say they would return in 2.0, but I believe in a different way. We know in Free Company once you beat Ifrit, the leader is allowed to summon him once. After that you have to fight him again.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Since their fights are exclusive to 1.0, I doubt it. They did say they would return in 2.0, but I believe in a different way. We know in Free Company once you beat Ifrit, the leader is allowed to summon him once. After that you have to fight him again.

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So do we think the fights will continue to exist in 2.0? If you have to fight them to gain the ability to summon them, and you can only gain that ability after 2.0... I don't see how the fights could be taken out

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Originally Posted by Rydin

So do we think the fights will continue to exist in 2.0? If you have to fight them to gain the ability to summon them, and you can only gain that ability after 2.0... I don't see how the fights could be taken out

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i was really hoping the primal claim system would be something like rifts "rift" system were its open world and you see the sky and weather change and everyone rushes to the area to battle it. Instead of first claim system have some sort of scoring system like hamlets have.

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Originally Posted by fusional

nah, already covered this at length on page 15. skipping plumes 2 and phase 2 are examples of game design working as intended, to make sure you're still forced to deal with the harder parts of the fight, no matter how fast you burn her. that's a mob AI HP check, and it's intentional.

the AI for her aerial blast HP check, however, is bugged. which has been acknowledged by devs. which is why you can skip it, even though you can't with any other primal.

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Amazes me how you still don't know the quirks of Garuda after killing her so much.

100%-90% = Normal attacks + WS. At 90%, Garuda immediately jumps in the air and does Mistral Shriek.

90%-60% = Normal Plumage + Mistral Shriek or Song. There is no set amount of plumes. She will repeat this combo until her tits shrivel or you die/timeout if you never take her below 60%.

60% = This is where she is buggy and inconsistent. Below 60%, she does her mass Plumage set which consists of the greater deal of plumes followed by Aerial Blast afterwards. The timing on this phase varies anywhere from 1min to 1min 50secs depending on when exactly she summon plumes since it's not instant and if she already had a set out while taken to below 60%. After Aerial Blast, it's Phase 2 until 40%.

40%-0% = Phase 3 shenanigans. South winds lasts 1 min, the other two 1 min 30secs~.

Knowing this, -everyone- that has fought Garuda has benefited from this bug where she doesn't auto Aerial Blast. PUG groups, groups that skip phase 2, BLM zerg groups. The 1min+ allotted to everyone at 60% of pure unadulterated DPS before Aerial Blast is the problem. If you've taken her to 40%, 30%, 15%, death, you've benefited from the bug no matter what setup you used. The equivalent for Ifrit would be if he was able to be killed in the 1 min window from when nails pop with no HP check to force him to Hellfire. I've no clue what % SE will finalize her auto Aerial Blast or if Phase 2 is wholly considered part of the Plumage + Aerial Blast combo to begin with.

I hope in the future we continue to find these bugs anyway. SE can only learn from it.

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Originally Posted by Kikosho

Amazes me how you still don't know the quirks of Garuda after killing her so much.

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i'm sorry, are we being snarky?

so, blm burn strat goes public the evening of the 29th. next day you and a whole lot of other scrubs magically get a smooth no-death kill on their first win. i wonder how that happened. your rigorous defense of the exploiters isn't helping your case, either.

but if you're such an expert on garuda mechanics, where were you 7 hours into patch? should've been you scoring that first kill, yeah? pity.

Elitist Battle! *Grabs popcorn and sit on a chair with legs propped up*

All I see by this threads title is "Look at how I have cheated and praise me for it and be jealous for some reason!"

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Originally Posted by Rydin

From the "Fix Garuda" thread



Not trying to start a flame war, I think it's just a very good question

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And that is why there is level adjustment. Have the cap for the fight at 50 (still have all ur skills and gear, but you aren't as strong) and the problems are solved.

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Originally Posted by fusional

i'm sorry, are we being snarky?

so, blm burn strat goes public the evening of the 29th. next day you and a whole lot of other scrubs magically get a smooth no-death kill on their first win. i wonder how that happened. your rigorous defense of the exploiters isn't helping your case, either.

but if you're such an expert on garuda mechanics, where were you 7 hours into patch? should've been you scoring that first kill, yeah? pity.

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7 hours into patch? Working, got home around emergency maintenance, went back to work after emergency maintenance was over, didn't get real time to play till after BLM burn was released. Pity me. After doing the fight a couple times with different setups, I picked up on things as well since it's not real hard to figure out, it's all execution. This is a team game as well so I can't exactly solo Garuda now can I?

I'm not defending exploiters either as I already said I don't consider it an exploit. But if you don't consider getting her to 15% before Aerial Blast with a standard setup an exploit either then that's all that needs to be said regarding this issue. I'm for the patch as well so all this bantering is moot.

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Originally Posted by Kikosho

I'm not defending exploiters either as I already said I don't consider it an exploit. But if you don't consider getting her to 15% before Aerial Blast with a standard setup an exploit either then that's all that needs to be said regarding this issue. I'm for the patch as well so all this bantering is moot.

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There is a difference between doing the fight normally and having enough dps to burn her through phases while killing the plumes, making sure the pillars don't take too much damage, transitioning into phase 3 controlling the clones and doing enough dps to them to kill them before they port and 1 shot everyone without pulling aggro and getting everyone stunned/knockbacked, or moving as a group while killing the plumes in the clock phase while also doing damage to garuda, and than killing her before your dps run out of mp.

And standing at the side of the arena, ignoring the plumes, ignoring the pillars and waiting for a small set of plumes to spawn allowing you the maximum amount of time to kill her before the other 50% of the fight even begins.

Not saying either strategy is hard but i am not sure if you noticed that 1 does completely ignore the entire purpose of the fight and the other doesn't.

@Peng: I know about the differences and yes, the non-burn way does require more team synergy and technique. That can't be disputed. The fact she doesn't auto Aerial Blast just makes her another Miser's Mistress though so in that regards, Garuda is the only target that matters. Ender would have no qualms with the burn setup. ;o

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Originally Posted by Kikosho

@Peng: I know about the differences and yes, the non-burn way does require more team synergy and technique. That can't be disputed. The fact she doesn't auto Aerial Blast just makes her another Miser's Mistress though so in that regards, Garuda is the only target that matters. Ender would have no qualms with the burn setup. ;o

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Except the devs have clearly stated that her not auto Aerial Blasting is an unintentional bug in the fight that will be fixed in a few days time.

I am not sure if you have completely grasped that fact.

Oh I do grasp it. Taking her low even with the standard setup is unintentional just as well.

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Originally Posted by Kikosho

Oh I do grasp it. Taking her low even with the standard setup is unintentional just as well.

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And yet at no point between the time my LS killed it and the time the BLM burn video was released did yoshi or any dev make a post saying it was unintentional.

However it was only a few hours after the BLM burn video was released that yoshi made a post saying it was unintentional and was being fixed.

And its not like they didn't have any chances to correct us, also at no point have they ever said burning mistress down before she moves is unintentional.

So maybe you are still missing the point of why the devs find the BLM burn an exploit.

Fusional says something dumb, LS's mates make a rational arguement to make what he says look less dumb..... You should skip that first step.

I, personally, think that the only part the dev team feels is an exploit is the ability to skip aerial blast completely. All the other stuff they might lump together into "good strategy". That's their choice and it sounds like they've made it. This is a group that is leaving things like PL and the rest of Garuda's mechanics alone, though, so idk how much I agree with how they label things.

Moogle srsly needed fixed, it got fixed. Garuda srsly needs fixed, she'll be fixed. For now, while I don't like it, I'd suggest everyone take advantage of the blm burn strategy before its gone. For any other strategy, as long as she gets to AB, I don't think it can be put into the same category as the officially declared exploit.

@Peng: I imagine because the bug was made abundantly apparent when BLMs blew it out of proportion. But I'll give you that, they didn't correct the issue then so I'm arguing on shallow ground.

I didn't say Mistress dying before she moves was unintentional either. I said Garuda without auto Aerial Blast makes her into a Mistress fight where it becomes completely timed based.

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Originally Posted by Peptaru

Fusional says something dumb, LS's mates make a rational arguement to make what he says look less dumb..... You should skip that first step.

I, personally, think that the only part the dev team feels is an exploit is the ability to skip aerial blast completely. All the other stuff they might lump together into "good strategy". That's their choice and it sounds like they've made it. This is a group that is leaving things like PL and the rest of Garuda's mechanics alone, though, so idk how much I agree with how they label things.

Moogle srsly needed fixed, it got fixed. Garuda srsly needs fixed, she'll be fixed. For now, while I don't like it, I'd suggest everyone take advantage of the blm burn strategy before its gone. For any other strategy, as long as she gets to AB, I don't think it can be put into the same category as the officially declared exploit.

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Would honestly be surprised if SE had any strategy in mind at all. I am honestly under the impression they just throw crap together half the time and then let the player base figure it out. It would definitely explain why they always make videos of them fighting crap with every job in full AF and why the bard in the garuda video never had raging strike up and decided to use chameleon after shooting her 3 times with light shot among many other flaws with how they were playing their jobs.

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Originally Posted by Req

Would honestly be surprised if SE had any strategy in mind at all. I am honestly under the impression they just throw crap together half the time and then let the player base figure it out. It would definitely explain why they always make videos of them fighting crap with every job in full AF and why the bard in the garuda video never had raging strike up and decided to use chameleon after shooting her 3 times with light shot among many other flaws with how they were playing their jobs.

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That could be the case, or maybe they are just messing around when they make those videos so that they don't tip the playerbase off too much. Showing off the clones is one matter, showing a party composed of 3 BLM, 2 BRD, 2 WAR, and a WHM is something much more telling.

Anyone who still thinks SE's little "teaser" videos mean anything are delusional. We've known they mean nothing more than just to show off video footage of the new content since.....DH? Remember when they showed the Eye doing like 8k damage to the party? Remember logging in and getting hit by the blast for the very first time? Remember taking like 1k damage?

I do.

The same people in those videos are the same people failing to QA the fights properly which is why they always come to our plate with exploitable bugs in them. SE needs to pickup the slack in the QA department, stop acting like Bethesda, and make solid content.

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

Anyone who still thinks SE's little "teaser" videos mean anything are delusional. We've known they mean nothing more than just to show off video footage of the new content since.....DH?

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Pretty sure I realized there were no strategy insights to be found within an SE video since watching them `demonstrate` how to kill Absolute Virtue by stacking PLD/WAR's with Terra staves.

Don't you love when you can't get in to kill Garuda legit because you're crowded out by people rushing to BLM burn it before it's hotfixed?

http://i.imgur.com/qCGDT.jpg

still sandy i see.