Price Reduction =)

Without going into anything - I just want to give my two cents and say that I would be more than happy to support SE by paying a subscription fee. I can't wait for this game to evolve throughout the years ahead! Woohoo!

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Now, that's not to say in the end it won't be just like dungeon finder. But the fact is that SE has a system in the pipes that will potentially allow you to play with your friends on other servers even on the same character. That's a better option than being lazy and just doing the half-assed option other MMO's do and force us to create new characters for it.

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The abomination that was PlayOnline let you have friends on different servers. It would be a nice feature in the friends list to be able to not only see friends on different servers but also queue up a dungeon finder with them. I'm 100% for this.

ok...so..is it $5/180days or is it $8/180days? Because $36 extra a year will make the difference for me...

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Originally Posted by Dubont

ok...so..is it $5/180days or is it $8/180days? Because $36 extra a year will make the difference for me...

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Someone broke it down earlier in the thread...

For 180 days:: 4.99 (to play game) + 3.00 (for 1 character/2 Retainers) = 7.99 * 6 Months

So for 180 days it will be: $47.94 every six months while we have this discount.

Which imo is a really good price, but I know others don't think that.

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Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen

Someone broke it down earlier in the thread...

For 180 days:: 4.99 (to play game) + 3.00 (for 1 character/2 Retainers) = 7.99 * 6 Months

So for 180 days it will be: $47.94 every six months while we have this discount.

Which imo is a really good price, but I know others don't think that.

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so...we're being charged for an account..AND a character? I thought we got 1 character slot for free? At least, that's what it said when I set up payment...which would mean it's only $4.99 * 6 months. If we're charged an additional character fee just to play as 1 character, that's dumb. Being charged for a character separately from an account (which we can't use without a character) is a really bad idea. Charging for additional characters, yeah, ok, fine, but....really? We can't seriously get charged for our 1 "free" slot...can we?


Edit: k...apparently we can be charged for a free slot...that's really really dumb...*sigh* but I guess $5 less a month isn't so bad...considering I am playing a Beta 2

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Originally Posted by Dubont

so...we're being charged for an account..AND a character? I thought we got 1 character slot for free? At least, that's what it said when I set up payment...which would mean it's only $4.99 * 6 months. If we're charged an additional character fee just to play as 1 character, that's dumb. Being charged for a character separately from an account (which we can't use without a character) is a really bad idea. Charging for additional characters, yeah, ok, fine, but....really? We can't seriously get charged for our 1 "free" slot...can we?

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they stated a 9.99 a month cost

thats 6.99 for the account and 3 for the character.

if you get a multi month plan, it makes it even cheaper per month(ends up being 8.99 and 7.99 per month based on how far ahead you pay)

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

they stated a 9.99 a month cost

thats 6.99 for the account and 3 for the character.

if you get a multi month plan, it makes it even cheaper per month(ends up being 8.99 and 7.99 per month based on how far ahead you pay)

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yes, but why even charge for the 1st character? That makes things difficult because now you have to pay for an account AND a character, separately. A basic account should include 1 character. Otherwise, the account is useless.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

yes, but why even charge for the 1st character? That makes things difficult because now you have to pay for an account AND a character, separately. A basic account should include 1 character. Otherwise, the account is useless.

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you look too much into it

the cost is 9.99 a month

wether or not they say its 9.99 with 1 character free or 6.99 + 3 per character(1 character required)

its still the same price



just cuz you dont like the wording doesnt change what it is

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

you look too much into it

the cost is 9.99 a month

wether or not they say its 9.99 with 1 character free or 6.99 + 3 per character(1 character required)

its still the same price



just cuz you dont like the wording doesnt change what it is

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you do realize you pay for them separately, right? You buy an account, then set up another payment option for characters...which is making things more difficult than it is. It should be "Basic account (Includes 1 free character slot) - $9.99/month, $7.99/6months,etc)" It would be much easier to set up in a payment page that is already difficult to manipulate.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

you do realize you pay for them separately, right? You buy an account, then set up another payment option for characters...which is making things more difficult than it is. It should be "Basic account (Includes 1 free character slot) - $9.99/month, $7.99/6months,etc)" It would be much easier to set up in a payment page that is already difficult to manipulate.

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i signed up on day 1...of course i know this

and it made sense to me back then too
since the advertised price was 12.99 back then, which was 9.99 + 3 per character



its simple math, it makes sense, people need to try seeing it for what it is, not for how they word it

SE tends to be silly in their explanations, Dubont lol, I think they basically wanted people to know it's $3.00 per character so did it that way.

But basically it's 7.99$ a month on the 180 day payment to play the game with one character, which equals the price per 6 months that I quoted you a few posts back. :)

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i signed up on day 1...of course i know this

and it made sense to me back then too
since the advertised price was 12.99 back then, which was 9.99 + 3 per character



its simple math, it makes sense, people need to try seeing it for what it is, not for how they word it

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Look at what I'm saying. I'm not complaining about the price. I'm complaining about how it is set up. Instead of JUST PAYING FOR A BASIC ACCOUNT and getting 1 free character, we have to go through 2 different payment types by buying 1 account and 1 character, which is over complicating things on an already messed up payment system.


Again, it would more simple to just set it up as "Basic account: 1 Account and 1 character= $price"

Instead, they have it as "Basic account:$price." Next option "1character:$price"

Just like at the game's release, they have too many screens/menus and too much complication for something so easy.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

Look at what I'm saying. I'm not complaining about the price. I'm complaining about how it is set up. Instead of JUST PAYING FOR A BASIC ACCOUNT and getting 1 free character, we have to go through 2 different payment types by buying 1 account and 1 character, which is over complicating things on an already messed up payment system.


Again, it would more simple to just set it up as "Basic account: 1 Account and 1 character= $price"

Instead, they have it as "Basic account:$price." Next option "1character:$price"

Just like at the game's release, they have too many screens/menus and too much complication for something so easy.

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in the end it comes down to 1 thing
they are japanese
we are american
we like prices up front and in our faces, not "broken down"

and thats where you have a problem

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Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen

SE tends to be silly in their explanations, Dubont lol, I think they basically wanted people to know it's $3.00 per character so did it that way.

But basically it's 7.99$ a month on the 180 day payment to play the game with one character, which equals the price per 6 months that I quoted you a few posts back. :)

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gotcha. I see that now after seeing it here rather than on a separate forums. Ty.

Still don't like how they have it set up =p

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

in the end it comes down to 1 thing
they are japanese
we are american
we like prices up front and in our faces, not "broken down"

and thats where you have a problem

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Yakuza are also Japanese and I can guarantee to you that they prefer their money up front.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

gotcha. I see that now after seeing it here rather than on a separate forums. Ty.

Still don't like how they have it set up =p

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lol yeah I can understand, when they first brought up the payment types I had to think about it for a moment and go:: Ok is that 4.99 with (nah that seems too low) has to be 4.99 + the 3.00.

Heehee. Glad to help you. :)

I'm curious if you choose the 180 days $4.99 (total $29.94), for the first month will they charge you:
1) $29.94 + $3.00 (Char first 30 days) and then charge $3.00 ever month (remainder of the 180 days) OR
2) $29.94 + $18.00 ($3 for the 180 day period)?

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Originally Posted by NeonEva

I'm curious if you choose the 180 days $4.99 (total $29.94), for the first month will they charge you:
1) $29.94 + $3.00 (Char first 30 days) and then charge $3.00 ever month (remainder of the 180 days) OR
2) $29.94 + $18.00 ($3 for the 180 day period)?

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The way I understand is it is 2. It is $4.99 + $3 a month, so $7.99 a month or $47.94 every 6 months, $95.88 a year.

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Originally Posted by Yelta_Sumasu

The way I understand is it is 2. It is $4.99 + $3 a month, so $7.99 a month or $47.94 every 6 months, $95.88 a year.

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Yep, that is how I am understand it as well, everything up front. :)

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Originally Posted by Victor

Does anyone else find it mildly frustrating that people seem to parade around that "3$ was always the fee, what are you talking about?" when not a single one of us has paid a single penny for a single day spent ingame thus far...?

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But it was known since Lodestone started.
I think it was also known before Lodestone started

Just look at the non-discounted services. It's the same thing as the discounted+char prices.

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Originally Posted by Felis

But it was known since Lodestone started.
I think it was also known before Lodestone started

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Felis is 100% correct! This was in fact announced last year when the game first came out it would be $3.00 per character. Despite the fact that we have not payed a single penny at this time, the monthly and character rates were stated back in like Aug/Sept on 2010 so everyone already knew the price per month/per character/per extra retainer.