[dev1008] Petition to have Jumping implement

I'm glad your asking that elexia. No it does not mean it will not be implemented ever, just that it is not being implemented now.

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Originally Posted by Vesperia

Yeah well go play tomb raider and get back to me

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What does this even mean? lol. Tomb Raider is a platformer, FFXIV is an RPG lol. dude you have 158 posts of pure gibberish. You wonder why people don't take you seriously?

I see clearly now

people against jumping because they're grandpa who only want to play oldschool rpg games with slow pace, no acrobatic movement or Action RPG

because they alway got owned by the computer everytime they play Action or Fighting games like Dissidia or DMC4 that's why they hate jumping or fast pace games

I support your cause Evangela. Assess THIS risk dev team!

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Originally Posted by Vesperia

Okay, well have fun auto-attacking an Ifrit that just stands there and takes it. And have fun not being able to climb or jump random pebbles that get in your way.

The fun never stops!

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lol

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I see clearly now

people against jumping because they're grandpa who only want to play oldschool rpg games with slow pace, no acrobatic movement or Action RPG

because they alway got owned by the computer everytime they play Action or Fighting games like Dissidia or DMC4 that's why they hate jumping or fast pace games

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Sometimes I feel you're trolling, other times I feel you may just be really slow and it makes me feel bad to consider you trolling if so.

I bet these people also complained about Tifa's limit break spin too fast and they need to change ATB style from ACTIVE to WAIT or they'll die :D

the real reason is not they afraid of people hopping around like rabbit but they afraid of this game become more action rpg

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I see clearly now

people against jumping because they're grandpa who only want to play oldschool rpg games with slow pace, no acrobatic movement or Action RPG

because they alway got owned by the computer everytime they play Action or Fighting games like Dissidia or DMC4 that's why they hate jumping or fast pace games

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Your awesome, you read my mind. lol

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Originally Posted by Rhianu

Uh... wrong. Every single Zelda game has had a jump function ever since Ocarina of Time on the N64. It's an auto-jump function, and not a jump-button, but it's still jumping. For example, when you run off a ledge or a cliff, Link automatically jumps, whereas in FFXIV you run into an invisible wall when you try to run off a ledge or cliff. Also, Link automatically jumps up small ledges and climbs over bigger ones, both of which would be impassible barriers that you would have to walk all the way around in FFXIV.

Traveling and exploring in the Zelda games would be a huge pain in the ass if it wasn't for the auto-jump function, just like it's a huge pain in the ass in FFXIV and FFXI. It's gotten better since they changed the collision detection, but it's still problem, and the only way to fix it is with a jump function.

If the dev team wants to, they can make it an auto-jump like Zelda instead of a jump-button like Mario, but one way or another we need to be able to jump.

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(irrelevant to thread, but...)
It dates back even further than OoT. In fact every Zelda but the original(i think) has some form of jump or ledge hopping.

Link's awakening: Jump
A link to the past: Ledge Jump
Adventure of Link: Jump
Original Zelda: No Jump

The difference is that the game was designed around the need to jump though.

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Originally Posted by Neptune

I support your cause Evangela. Assess THIS risk dev team!



lol

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Bravo! that makes 3 people on the entire forum. At this pace you guys are gonna need to buy out SE to see jump implemented in this game.

I do not want to have jumping implemented, unless it was automated jumping like in FFXIII.

Action RPG = Ys.
Action "RPG" = Zelda
Action RPG =/= Final Fantasy

So I'm pretty sure while this is a numbered entry, it's not going to suddenly change the game series that dramatically. Even XIII wasn't action based since it had the auto-battle system that you couldn't 100% rely on, but it did take out most input a lot of the time.

Only the spin off games have been "Action" based, like Crystal Chronicles.

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Originally Posted by Rjain

I do not want to have jumping implemented, unless it was automated jumping like in FFXIII.

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I came to this conclusion in Alpha when everyone kept moaning with their black or white arguments. Most people seemed to be ok with an automated kind of jump. It's basically a middle ground that most people can agree on.

Technicalities aside, i would prefer this kind of system. Also, no one wants to watch ladder cutscenes. Add climb with this.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I bet these people also complained about Tifa's limit break spin too fast and they need to change ATB style from ACTIVE to WAIT or they'll die :D

the real reason is not they afraid of people hopping around like rabbit but they afraid of this game become more action rpg

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Obvious troll is obvious. Instead of trolling people who don't agree with you how about trying to actually argue facts.

I play Disidia and DMC4 "Personally 3 takes far more skill" and those are great for action games. I want my battles in MMO's to be won by being skillfull and tactfull, not because I can mash "Dodge" better than anyone else. Disidia is fun and all but it really just comes down to a game of Dodging until someone leave a opening.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I see clearly now

people against jumping because they're grandpa who only want to play oldschool rpg games with slow pace, no acrobatic movement or Action RPG

because they alway got owned by the computer everytime they play Action or Fighting games like Dissidia or DMC4 that's why they hate jumping or fast pace games

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Thread Derailed : Officially a Trolling Opinion Fight : All following posts must be in format

" I see clearly now

people against _______________ because they're ________ who only want to ___________________ with _________________________.

because they "alway" _____________________________ by __________ everytime they ___________________ like __________________ that's why they _________________________



I made a "vicious retort" one. But I decided to take it down. lol. It was just my view on the quoted post. Like not in regards to the current argument...past...current argument.... lol. Just the fact that. "I have to assume someone is <insult> because they are <different>"

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Originally Posted by Tezz_Xivectro

I came to this conclusion in Alpha when everyone kept moaning with their black or white arguments. Most people seemed to be ok with an automated kind of jump. It's basically a middle ground that most people can agree on.

Technicalities aside, i would prefer this kind of system. Also, no one wants to watch ladder cutscenes. Add climb with this.

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I can get on board with this. Its reasonable and would fix any complaints aside from people that just want to jump around non-stop.

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Originally Posted by Sushirom

Thread Derailed :

" I see clearly now

people against Jumping because they're Midgets who only want to Feel like everyone else with The abillity to not jump high.

because they "alway" get mocked by Tall people everytime they Hop like Rabbits that's why they Cry themselves to sleep

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Did I do it right?

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Next time i'll find a noun only generator. -.-

" I see clearly now

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because they "always" _____________bedroom________________ by ____indicative______ everytime they ________chaos___________ like _________commission_________ that's why they ___________wave______________"

I want jumping now. I am sick of being a retarded cripple that cant even jump down from a stupid ledge. I could do that shit in real life. Why can't i do it in a FANTASY MMO where I fight freakin dragons 10 times me size? Where is the consistency.

Just freaking implement it, for chrissake.

They didn't say they wasn't implementing it at all , they said it was moved to lower priority task under currently working on.

I want it nao!!

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I want it nao!!

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Same. Square Enix, make it work.

I wouldn't stop this thread until they move it back to high priority

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I wouldn't stop this thread until they move it back to high priority

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That would be the dumbest thing ever. lol

please add jump.
thank you.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

That would be the dumbest thing ever. lol

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On the bright side, maybe the forum mods will lock it if that happens.

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Originally Posted by Vesperia

I want jumping now. I am sick of being a retarded cripple that cant even jump down from a stupid ledge. I could do that shit in real life. Why can't i do it in a FANTASY MMO where I fight freakin dragons 10 times me size? Where is the consistency.

Just freaking implement it, for chrissake.

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Dragons where D:? I wanna see the dragons...

It's pretty funny how both sides just keep saying "Your opinion's not valid because you don't have a good enough reason to convince ME why you want/don't want it!"
Whether you're for or against it no one else's opinion will change your mind. So it's pretty pointless and perhaps not very intelligent to keep asking the opposing side for more reasons when you know none of them will satisfy you.

As I've said before, and I've stated my reasons in just about every one of these threads.. No thanks to free jump. Game breaker for me. A zelda-like jump where when approaching a ledge you jump off, I could deal with, but SE already fixed the ledges so there's no need.

I'd like to see jump implemented, but as the letter indicated it's not a high priority compared to things like battle system revisions after all. You bake a delicious cake before you apply the icing. That said, it should be put in eventually, and a full unrestricted jump system, not a Zelda/FFXIII style one that's basically adding action commands rather than actually jumping. Having a jump won't call attention to itself after the novelty wears off, but its absence in a modern game, especially an open world MMO, draws lots of attention to the game's restrictions--just look at this thread. However, an action command based system also draws attention to how restricted jumping is, and doesn't make sense for the large open maps of FFXIV as opposed to the narrow linear corridors of FFXIII and FFX-2.

Either way, the message I got from the letter is that it will be put in eventually, as it should be, but it comes after much more important additions.

I agree OJtheLIONKing.

I WANT JUMPING D: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I WANT TO JUMP.

*boing boing* jks.

But seriously jumping gives you the illusion of more freedom and control over your character. Nothing is worse than not being able to jump off a cliff. You just slide :|

I demand one of these choices

1. Move it back to high priority task

or

2. Just tell me in the next letter... Will you ever implement jumping or not?


It might be silly but their answer is important

if they can't make a decision about this, I'll see the future of this game

while another big name MMOs coming out this year with a lot of features and contents if SE still bother themselves, thinking about they should add jumping or not and need half a year to decide... this game not gonna go anywhere else

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I demand one of these choices

1. Move it back to high priority task

or

2. Just tell me in the next letter... Will you ever implement jumping or not?


It might be silly but their answer is important

if they can't make a decision about this, I'll see the future of this game

while another big name MMOs coming out this year with a lot of features and contents if SE still bother themselves, thinking about they should add jumping or not and need half a year to decide... this game not gonna go anywhere else

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So if your demands aren't met you're leaving for another game & forum? SWEET. You know what to do SE! = D

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Originally Posted by Leeloo

So if your demands aren't met you're leaving for another game & forum? SWEET. You know what to do SE! = D

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No he'll stick around here still instead of playing a game with everything he wants already implemented.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

while another big name MMOs coming out this year with a lot of features and contents if SE still bother themselves, thinking about they should add jumping or not and need half a year to decide... this game not gonna go anywhere else

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It's people like you that make it impossible for SE to take the threat of competing games' content seriously.

This thread again. Evangela again. Stupid again.

I really hope they add jumping. What they have now is a pretty ghetto fix. We need real jumping.

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Originally Posted by Hitoriki

I really hope they add jumping. What they have now is a pretty ghetto fix. We need real jumping.

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What they have now is the same mechanic as jump without the jumping animation. So ghetto fix? Not really.

I don't want that kind of jump

I want to hit the space bar to jump anytime I want

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Originally Posted by Evangela

I don't want that kind of jump

I want to hit the space bar to jump anytime I want

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That's unfortunate.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

That's unfortunate.

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you're not the one who can make the decision

stop acting like you're a dev