High-level crafters beware: You get suspended if you sell to players who bought gil

I bet those people selling Titan HM runs feel bad. That's if they got banned for receiving illegitimate gil.

From Cactuar server here, i have 10.5 millions and got suspended. Was playing fine this morning and now can't do anything, I even have a authenticator so I highly doubt I got hacked.

To people saying "Having over 10m is suspucious", I was the first 46+ miner on my server for several days, sole supplier to the whole server, making 1m a day so stop throwing false accusation...

I really hope they clean this mess soon.

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Originally Posted by neiris

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Here is the thing; None of us condone Gil Buying.

We leveled our crafts. We want to use them to make money for whatever reason (Housing, probably). That is it. Prices are ridiculous? Well, I guess that depends on the server, but 2m for something that costs just under 1m to make? Hardly ridiculous at all.

Nobody is going "I'm selling it at this price SO PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO BUY GIL FOR IT!". No, they're just selling at the price they see as reasonable. RMT are a fact of MMOs, you cannot honestly expect people to stop profiting off crafting just because RMT are a thing. This has not been a problem in any other MMO. This is not sellers condoning Gil Buying. This is the exact same economics which drives pretty much every other MMO out there.

Hey guys lets ban people who legitimately made all their millions of gil over the last month, will go real well. I really do hope Square has a system in place where they can tell "hey this guy got several million gil all at once" and they can tell it apart from "hey this guy has several million gil but it's made through several hundred/thousand transactions over the last month", because if they don't that the most asinine thing ever that there seems to be an "unknown" gil cap in place where if you're over a set amount you get taken out for the weekend.

Do something about the RMT spammers first square then worry about who may or may not have bought gil, you aren't doing anyone any favors killing off actual playing players over killing off the bots who sit in shout all day long spamming their service.

At Nimrod, on my server I see Ilvl70 gears being sold for 2mill, if you think about it logically, whoever made the gear probably spent at most 400k on materials such to HQ (probably much less because on reddit you can learn how to guarantee a HQ item 100% rate) and are selling their items at like 300% and the only reason they are doing this...is because they know dummies out there have bought gold from gold sellers and will have 2mill to drop on their 500k items. It should be pretty obvious that very few people are going to have over a mill through normal means so pricing your stuff in a way that screams "only buy my stuff if you bought gold from a gold seller" should be an excuse to get yourself banned.

At the very least said gear seller should receive a message to the extent of, stop targeting gold buyers and target your sales to real players.

Here's the rub. Yes, everyone who made their gil fairly has cause to be angry but the fact they were affected is testament to just how far RMT are going to look legitimate. It's getting harder for Square to tell the RMT from the honestly successful, so they have little choice than to get out a shotgun and bandage up the ones that bleed, to use a zombie horror example. All the ones you see shouting in the city centers? Those are akin to those kids on the sides of roads twirling signs. They aren't the business, they're just pointing you in the direction of. I get that people are unhappy with this arrangement, but if you know of a better way I'm sure Square would love to see it. Nothing hits the bottom line like an angry customer and a shotgun is just going to make for alot of angry customers.

Ouch 72 Hr. blanket ban for people effected according to the reddit.. goodbye weekend for the effected =/.

Too bad they didn't ban all the botter crafters. I love seeing people that got to 50 crafting within a couple days screaming about how they were "just selling their wares"... uhh huh.

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Originally Posted by neiris

How does SE weed out those players efficiently? That's very very tough if not impossible unfortunately.

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You know, I bet if they banned every character they'd catch 100% of gil farmers! Oh, wait, was not banning legitimate players one of the goals we wanted to achieve? WHOOPS.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

SE sometimes flags normal players as RMT if they make a lot of gil. Obviously they shouldn't but they do make mistakes a lot when it comes to people with a lot of gil.

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I had it happen twice in FFXI. Thankfully it was on two separate accounts so I avoided any long term bans but it was utterly ridiculous. They would not even explain to me in full why I was banned. I knew there was no legitimate reason for it but multiple reps would just quote to me the vague BS I was sent in an email. Honestly, I don't know what SE is thinking but if you're banning someone you should tell them the EXACT reason. In fact, I feel like it's a customers right to know why. Seriously SE... you're just perpetuating your reputation for having ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE customer "service".