RMT are now advertising crystal/shards - Shards need changed

500-1000 shards are gatherer by DOL 50 in one hour.

Craft a pre-relic weapon time cost 2-3 mins and his price around 25k-30k gils

I prefer waste my time going to the market, buy 100 shards at 30 gil each and craft it than go to the nodes and pick shards. Only i do when i am bored or watching football, anime, film, etc...

Unlucky, RMT earn gil to sell, btw if they don't supply market, the price of the shards will be expensive and force to crafter to gathering it.

The option is ban bots and the market will be filled by humans.

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Originally Posted by Niwid

The highest amount of shards you will ever use in a craft is 6. All you have to do is start a gathering class and...ohwait, that's literally ALL you have to do to gather shards of ANY type. START a DoL class and go hit stuff with an object. GG.

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Actually its 11 shards per synthesis. 5 of one type and 6 of the other. For consumables like food stuffs this means 1,100 shards per stack of food which someone can easily run through on 2-3 hours worth of Titan HM content or any upper 50 content.

it is quite more than that, most things in armor craft cost 2-3 plates per, a kite shield costs 3 cobalt plates, a cobalt rivet, and something else. That means i need 7 ingots which cost 5 ice shards each, so thats 35 shards for the ingots, 20 shards to convert them into what i need, and then 5 ice shards and 6 earth shards for the final combine. Thats 66 shards just for one synth. so i can spend an hour getting 500ish shards that i will go through in a matter of minutes or buy off the market board and take a bit of profit reduction.

I don't care about them making it easier to get them, i care more about the fact there is tons of rmt bots warp hacking from point to point auto farming shards. When i go to the market board i always try to buy shards from someone who doesn't seem rmt (ie not selling 10 stacks of 1000 shards)

I just use that 400 gp shard bonus (3 shards per swing) and do it when you get the extra attempt, bam 15 right there then farm herbs or mats for other stuff till the gp goes back up to 400 then boom (goes the dynamite) 15 more. Doesn't take too long that way : )

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

Shards are in such a bad place right now, you need so many to level up crafts and make stuff that even RMT have hopped on the market and are posting it in their advertisements. Please give more efficient ways to gather shards SE. We need too many to level crafts and consume too many for how few ways there are to get them.

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Why is it the only answer to RMT in these threads is to make it so prevalent its worthless? Surely gatherer classes need to have a point even for low level players.

I think a good way to fix this is change the exp that shards give, since higher gathering points happen to have shards make the shards at those points higher level and yield an extra 1-2, ie shards at lvl1-10 yield one shards and are level 1-10, shards at 11-20 points are 11-20 and yield two per. This would encourage DoL to to harvest shards for exp providing a better balanced market

But it is also contingent on them banning all the mine bots out there and removing a large amoutn of the rmt shards in the market. This would keep the price they are at which is some what reasonable while encouraging disciples of land to harvest shards

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Originally Posted by Ehllfhire

Shards and crystals are easy to farm and cheap to buy on market so why buy them from gold sellers?

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Because you are probably buying from them on the markets without realizing it. D:

in version 1.0 you could do shard from fishes.

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Originally Posted by Laume

She's saying in general. Right now, there's no reliable way for anyone except gathering classes to get shards/crystals/clusters. And it's a huge hassle to level DoL at the moment. And, as a level 50 miner and botanist. I have to agree. Even for us, it takes a good while to get 1k shards for 1 element.

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Why do you need to level? Pick up a Weathered Pickaxe, or a Weathered Hatchet. Boom, you're getting shards. This is FFXIV's Beehive Chips. This is how beginning players (well, those who have gotten to level 17, so they have a retainer to sell with) get some money in their pocket.

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Originally Posted by Trife

I couldn't agree more. I hate these new expectations of MMO's. It's like a whole different game now designed for this new generation of gaming that promotes laziness and no sense of self worth because everything is so effortless.

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This bears repeating.