When you're questing, you are DPS - can't heal mobs to death. Even in the story scenarios where you have to help NPCs kill enemies, it's better to actively DPS their targets instead of healbotting them. BTW, when healing dungeons, I don't have many options either (small heal, big heal fueled by RNG proc, pbaoe heal, instant HOT), but that's a topic for a different discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobolt
Which spells are worth to cross-class? Ruin is inferior to Stone II in every way, and I assume so is Thunder except if the DOT can tick fully. Speaking of which, Aero is only useful if I need to cast a nuke on the move, something to put on enemies in dungeons, and for tagging mobs in FATEs.
I'm not convinced it's even worthwhile to cast Aero against a typical quest mob that dies before the DOT can finish ticking -- I could just cast an extra Stone II in that time and do more damage. Or if a mob is casting an AOE cone at me, I'm better off using Fluid Aura to knock it back and spamming some more Stone II. Etc etc.
Please tell me there will be less healers soon...
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10-03-2013, 10:53 PMZetor
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10-03-2013, 11:21 PMMorthis
Aero needs 5 ticks to beat Stone II, so less than 3 seconds left on it. Thunder needs 4 ticks, so less than 6 seconds left on it.
If you aren't at the point yet where these dots fully tick down when soloing, you will be soon. Killing slows down a bit at higher levels. -
10-03-2013, 11:31 PMZetorGood info, thanks! Yeah, I did a few tests earlier and found that trying to dot mobs just wasn't worth it, 2.5sec GCD and all. Still not sure it's a significant win to use Thunder / Aero on normal quest mobs (can dot ticks crit?), but even if it's just a break-even, it makes things a bit less monotonous :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Morthis
That said, just having another button to use during combat (or even a proc to make the next nuke instant / do more damage / whatever) would be great. Even a dedicated healer must spend most of the 1-49 levels solo killing mobs, after all! -
10-04-2013, 12:46 AMsheepysheepy
is this still the case? i currently que for wp and cm at the same time and just take whatever pops up first, taking about 20minutes, definitely not instant, are the other dungeons just more popular?
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10-04-2013, 01:26 AMTzain
There is always a bottleneck in a queue system. The bottleneck is a moving target that changes based on lots of factors and going through them all would require a class on the subject. Lately, the bottleneck has been tanks for Brayflox groups. The ones I talk to are reporting near instant queues while my white mage can wait significantly longer.
One of the most interesting ones though was myself, as a white mage and a summoner bud queued in back to back Brayflox groups and ended up grouped with the same Black Mage in both runs but getting a different tank. I'm still trying to figure out how in the heck that happened. -
10-04-2013, 04:01 AMProvidenceBreakerSeriously? Stone, Aero while moving away from the mob, Thunder, Stone II until it reaches you, Fluid Aura it away from you and Stone II until dead. DoTs are usually close to finishing up as the mob is nearly dead, so they definitely aren't wasted. This is assuming level appropriate questing in average gear. CNJ has been far more efficient and dynamic in solo content than any other class i have tried. THM feels like a chore by comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zetor
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10-04-2013, 04:02 AMKako0404
Been a healer all my life but in FFXI, WHM was very popular (official breakdown) given the authority, ease of finding group and provenance of the class. On the other hand, in SWTOR, Healers (Sorc/Ops) are actually one one of least popular classes. Everyone wanted to be Darth Mauls and Skywalkers chopping with their lighsabers lol. So it really depends how the classes are marketed.
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10-04-2013, 04:16 AMLeiloniIt depends on the MMO. Some games I've played had a lot of healers. TERA had a lot of both healing classes because it was fun in that game, and it's fun in this game. When a class is well designed, fun to play, well marketed, and has other fun things like a mount or a fairy, etc. - it attracts players to it. Games that didn't have a lot of healers were games where the healing classes simply weren't as good as others. And that comes from someone who has played healers in every MMO I've played. Aion as well had a lot of healers - again, both healing/support classes in that game were really well designed and fun to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakotoNano
And at 50, I still get insta queue's in DF if I dare queue in DF, although usually I make groups with guildies or via shout chat. -
10-04-2013, 04:26 AMKajimadoushi
I've never really waited that long in duty finder to get into an instance and my main is a 35 WHM
There was even this one time in Haukke Manor when i got in, the 2 dps were the only ones in because apparently Tank and healer got mad at each other and rage quit. After 15minutes of waiting for new tank, we decided to do this on our own and actually pwned the place with a BLM, SMN and WHM only xD
So i don't know, maybe the population who do have a healer is big but the population of MAIN healers isn't all that big? -
10-04-2013, 05:03 AMMenaeWouldn't even bother with stone I, actually, unless you are chain pulling or pulling things 3+ levels higher (or they have a bunch of red zone attacks, like treeants). OOC regen is high enough so that you will heal back most/all of your damage taken even if the mob gets to you a half second sooner.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProvidenceBreaker
I usually go Thunder>Aero>Stone II forevers.