Want your White Ravens Before 1.0 Ends?

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Originally Posted by Cynthis

Purely for my personal curiosity, would it be against the ToS to sell this service for real-life money?

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Since its selling a Quest Clear its like you are hiring someone for their services, and not actually purchasing something from them. Closest thing would be someone power leveling your character for you which is generally against ToS because it falls under account sharing in 99% of cases. I'd have to look more in depth at the ToS but it doesn't fall under selling in game items for real money.

So for the actual answer, someone would have to dig through FFXIV's EULA; which is never fun.

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Originally Posted by LavellaNyteshade

Hey BG, lemme know what server you guys are going to @ 2.0 so I know where not to go.

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and people accuse us of being selfish, wow. get a load of this guy.

A fool and their money...

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Originally Posted by Cynthis

lol, you mean it's only against the law if you get caught:) I wish I had know that before attending law school. Since I am at work and can't look up the ToS, is it just because this is for an item or would it also be a breach to say sell (for real-life money) the service of helping someone clear the normal Raven fight so they can finish the storyline?

Oh, and sorry for hijacking the thread.

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Anything to do with Money is against TOS of course you could pay ingame money for items in game without issue. But anything to do with real life money to buy ingame goods are against TOS. But like you said if you get caught then they could ban you.

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Originally Posted by pythes

seriously, 15m isn't worth the time/effort of getting 7 LS members together and carry someone though the fight

i thinks its a fair price for a once in a lifetime item that is amazingly good, and will NEVER be obtainable again

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The earring is average at best not 'amazingly good' and if anyone pays 40m+ for them, they better get a BJ from all 7 party members as well.

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Originally Posted by RaidenTaichou

The earring is average at best not 'amazingly good' and if anyone pays 40m+ for them, they better get a BJ from all 7 party members as well.

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whether or not someone considers it "amazing", it's best in slot for nearly every job in most situations. so if you consider that to be 'average at best', well, that's weird- but more power to you.

on the other hand, completely aside from it being a "status symbol" or at the very least a once in a lifetime memento of accomplishment in a game about to go under radical changes- quite a lot of people who care about their gear understand the value of this piece.

so if you personally don't think they're worth it, and if 200 other people don't think they're worth it- cool. that's your prerogative. but don't speak on behalf of everyone like some expert character witness giving objective testimony.

unless you have some numbers and charts and graphs explaining exactly what they're good for and how good they are and the exact gil amount they're worth in relation to their stat values, trying to make a qualitative statement about them using anything resembling denotative language is just silly and wrong.

it's your opinion, and that's cool. but don't get ahead of yourself.

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Originally Posted by fusional

whether or not someone considers it "amazing", it's best in slot for nearly every job in most situations. so if you consider that to be 'average at best', well, that's weird- but more power to you.

on the other hand, completely aside from it being a "status symbol" or at the very least a once in a lifetime memento of accomplishment in a game about to go under radical changes- quite a lot of people who care about their gear understand the value of this piece.

so if you personally don't think they're worth it, and if 200 other people don't think they're worth it- cool. that's your prerogative. but don't speak on behalf of everyone like some expert character witness giving objective testimony.

unless you have some numbers and charts and graphs explaining exactly what they're good for and how good they are and the exact gil amount they're worth in relation to their stat values, trying to make a qualitative statement about them using anything resembling denotative language is just silly and wrong.

it's your opinion, and that's cool. but don't get ahead of yourself.

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Ifrit Ex kills are being charged 15-20mil here on excalibur, (idk maybe the economy is different per server) but if ppl are paying twice as much for a earring (no mind blowing stats mind you) compared to a relic then idk...Im sure Im not the only one that thinks thats fucking insane. I mean if you think thats a 'fair price' then god bless ya, just know you are in the major minority and I applaud you for every moron that pays full price.

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Originally Posted by RaidenTaichou

Ifrit Ex kills are being charged 15-20mil here on excalibur, (idk maybe the economy is different per server) but if ppl are paying twice as much for a earring (no mind blowing stats mind you) compared to a relic then idk...Im sure Im not the only one that thinks thats fucking insane. I mean if you think thats a 'fair price' then god bless ya, just know you are in the major minority and I applaud you for every moron that pays full price.

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relic will be available in 2.0, and ifrit will be easier than ever with alleviation of latency issues. white ravens are available for one more week. the fact that people are paying 15-20mil for an item that will still be obtainable in 2.0 vs. twice that for an item that won't doesn't really support your argument that white ravens aren't worth it.

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Originally Posted by fusional

relic will be available in 2.0, and ifrit will be easier than ever with alleviation of latency issues. white ravens are available for one more week. the fact that people are paying 15-20mil for an item that will still be obtainable in 2.0 vs. twice that for an item that won't doesn't really support your argument that white ravens aren't worth it.

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I just wasnt aware people have such bad cases of Completionist/Achievment OCD, because those Earring Stats are not impressive at all. But like i said before, more power to you if people are paying ya 49mil for em.

People can buy just as useful, or BETTER earrings for far less gil.
It's purely about collection and e-peen (Which, if you're paying other people to get it for you, you lose anyway).