The design of cc is so toxic that is very unfriendly to new players

They just need to put grindable loot for a longer process for casual / Frontline queue and not force us to do ranked, pretend to care, for 2 totems to get the armors they are bringing back. 90% of the time people only care about the armors / rewards, not for glory cause lets face it, there's no real glory in FF14s pvp with you hitting your button but the elixir of your enemy still goes off. (Very good game)

Anyway, here's the solution.
Cap wolfmarks for 1 piece of armor, then upgrade it to make it dyeable with trophy crystals.
New player game mode where they can have 'fun' while getting loot. Everyone wins.

But Nope, forcing me to do ranked, hating myself to crystal until I just abandon it as soon as I get there. The earlier the better.

You're not forced to do ranked. You're not even forced to play the game. That's a conscious choice you do.

Now if certain rewards are locked behind certain things like ranked, and whether or not they should be, is definitely worth discussing.

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Originally Posted by NevaehQuest

I was watching some stream of a friend trying out cc for just for a while, this asshole mnk just keep lbing and ratting her to the point that she doesn't want to play cc ever again. I just think that the game mode should at least have some kind of protection against ratting. In most of the pvp has a safezone, or base with turret so new player can spend time learning the game. I think cc will never be popular if is this unfriendly to new player.
I am saying this cause I do care about the game mode, but its dead right now with players only doing it for pvp series and exp.
Like beside older players I know, I am having trouble convincing any new player to play cc.
Ranked game been dead for like a while now.

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Well you need experience to become good and this is not an environment you can script yourself out of...

There is ONLY ONE advice to all this... practice and by doing such you must do CC on repeat, so you can get better there IS no other way than to get into like that... if mobility is what keeps you alive learn how to run and be effective at the same time and so on and so forth.... you can't shoot around corners for an instance.

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Originally Posted by RedAkihabara

Lack of Tools: The forced silence means no one can offer advice or even a simple "group up" call. The new player is isolated, confused, and getting destroyed with no way to understand why or how to improve.

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The forced silence is the best part of it, because otherwise you would be having people ranting for 5 to 10 minutes and the pace of the battle does not allow for keyboard ninjas either, there IS no way to learn this... you can learn your basic rotations in the Wolves Den Pier and further more you can duel people as well there, if you are looking for advice that is or to practice outside of the CC enviroment.

Stop saying there is a lack of tools, when the tools is right there at hand, the only difference is faster pace when inside a CC battle.

The main issue is on boarding, no forced tutorial, not disallowing ppl to que pvp if all the buttons are not on your bars.
But there is the the entitled apathy of those joining.
Dont know how to do something and youre involving other ppl? Do the minimum and ask or look it up.

Theres also players cant figure out that 4v5 is bad and grouping is good.
You can hit GROUP UP and ppl's ego wont have them do it.

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Originally Posted by ShiyuuHQ

They just need to put grindable loot for a longer process for casual / Frontline queue and not force us to do ranked, pretend to care, for 2 totems to get the armors they are bringing back. 90% of the time people only care about the armors / rewards, not for glory cause lets face it, there's no real glory in FF14s pvp with you hitting your button but the elixir of your enemy still goes off. (Very good game)

Anyway, here's the solution.
Cap wolfmarks for 1 piece of armor, then upgrade it to make it dyeable with trophy crystals.
New player game mode where they can have 'fun' while getting loot. Everyone wins.

But Nope, forcing me to do ranked, hating myself to crystal until I just abandon it as soon as I get there. The earlier the better.

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I know the pain. I used to play ranked in this game for many seasons until I burnt out and finally reached crystal several times enough to gather materials for shiny weapons. The armor they set for red crystals aren't worth at all. But the journey is indeed a big pain and you'll feel much better once you stop doing ranked.

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Originally Posted by Avarence

The main issue is on boarding, no forced tutorial, not disallowing ppl to que pvp if all the buttons are not on your bars.
But there is the the entitled apathy of those joining.
Dont know how to do something and youre involving other ppl? Do the minimum and ask or look it up.

Theres also players cant figure out that 4v5 is bad and grouping is good.
You can hit GROUP UP and ppl's ego wont have them do it.

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That's partially due to high end players hating those emotes. "Group up" and "Fall back and regroup" are the most hated emotes someone can do. If done in the game, you have very high chances to receive an ignore marker and be talked about on various discords.

You'd be surprised how many 4v5 end up winning because they just have way better team comp than the enemy team + they can stall insanely good. Even one paladin or GNB can stall enough for his entire team to come back even though its 1v5. Crazy I know. Grouping should not be done in the end game at any cost. When timer is out, there should be just one person in the crystal. If all go there > more AOE to your team and a certain death.

Some matches can't be won if enemy has a sage / dnc and these combos. This is just a death sentence as you will be forced to enter in sage's lb to win the game.