Please increase aetherwall gained from Alliance Raid Roulette

You know I've been thinking on this for a while and I'm wondering why didn't they just make it so that the daily bonus makes it so that you get a certain amount of aether every day? I don't think it would feel so bad getting low aether duties then. Say syrcus tower gives 100 the bonus aether would be 900 and say nier raid gives 800 the bonus would be 200? Then people grinding after daily bonus would still need to grind a lot and people doing it once a day wouldn't feel as bad getting lower level duties.

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Originally Posted by ehbiwtf

High level dungeons and alliance raids are in a good place, the other two not so much. I know some people are going to try to grind it without the bonus, but that's crazy.

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And Chimera takes, what, a minute? Maybe two?

In my experience, all of the roulettes are actually in a fine place. Assuming no shenanigans, you can expect roughly 25 aether per minute on the instance timer (ignoring the bonus):

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Bonus, Roulette, Instance, Time taken, Base Aether, Bonus Aether, Total Aether, Base Aether per minute

Daily, Alliance Raid, Void Ark,          19min, 492, 101, 593, 26
Daily, Alliance Raid, Orbonne Monastary,  31min, 860, 101, 961, 28
No,    Alliance Raid, Orbonne Monastary,  34min, 860,  0, 860, 25
No,    Alliance Raid, LotA,              18min, 374,  0, 374, 21
No,    Alliance Raid, LotA,              16min, 374,  0, 374, 23
No,    Alliance Raid, LotA,              16min, 374,  0, 374, 23
No,    Alliance Raid, Syrcus,            15min, 356,  0, 356, 24
No,    Alliance Raid, WoD,                19min, 459,  0, 459, 24
No,    Alliance Raid, WoD,                17min, 459,  0, 459, 27
No,    Alliance Raid, Jeuno,              28min, 753,  0, 753, 27


Daily, Normal Raid,  O12N,                6min, 171, 614, 785, 29
Daily, Normal Raid,  P3N,                5min, 130, 614, 744, 26
Daily, Normal Raid,  M2N,                7min, 170, 614, 784, 24
No,    Normal Raid,  A11N,                6min, 139,  0, 139, 23
No,    Normal Raid,  A12N,                7min, 172,  0, 172, 25
No,    Normal Raid,  O1N,                4min, 104,  0, 104, 26
No,    Normal Raid,  O1N,                4min, 104,  0, 104, 26
No,    Normal Raid,  E5N,                7min, 160,  0, 160, 23
No,    Normal Raid,  P7N,                7min, 144,  0, 144, 21
No,    Normal Raid,  P9N,                6min, 161,  0, 161, 27
No,    Normal Raid,  M1N,                5min, 155,  0, 155, 31
No,    Normal Raid,  M4N,                7min, 174,  0, 174, 25
No,    Normal Raid,  M8N,                9min, 213,  0, 213, 24

Daily, Trials,        Big Bridge,          3min,  74, 614, 688, 25
Daily, Trials,        Thornmarch,          4min,  96, 614, 710, 24
Daily, Trials,        Voidcast Dais,      7min, 193, 614, 807, 28
No,    Trials,        Chrysalis,          5min, 134,  0, 134, 27
No,    Trials,        Leviathan,          3min,  71,  0,  71, 24
No,    Trials,        Relic Reborn: Hydra, 2min,  37,  0,  37, 19
No,    Trials,        Dragon's Neck,      3min,  78,  0,  78, 26
No,    Trials,        Bismarck,            5min, 118,  0, 118, 24
No,    Trials,        Final Day,          12min, 295,  0, 295, 25
No,    Trials,        Rubicante,          6min, 168,  0, 168, 28

Daily, x0 Dungeons,  Halatali (Hard),    13min, 338, 376, 714, 26
Daily, x0 Dungeons,  Aetherfont,        14min, 406, 376, 782, 29
Daily, x0 Dungeons,  Kugane Castle,      14min, 364, 376, 740, 26
No,    x0 Dungeons,  Braflox (Hard),      9min, 278,  0, 278, 31
No,    x0 Dungeons,  ???,                16min, 477,  0, 477, 30

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Maybe some adjustments could be made to take into account the proportion of time spent in the queue vs. in the instance.

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Originally Posted by MarniDawg

You know I've been thinking on this for a while and I'm wondering why didn't they just make it so that the daily bonus makes it so that you get a certain amount of aether every day?

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The alliance raid roulette is the only one that really suffers that problem: The bonus aether is always the same, but the base aether varies wildly because clear times vary wildly.

What's your BAPM when you adjust for total time, not just the time in the duty from when the timer starts. I'd guess you spend more time waiting on cutscenes and queues, than you do for some of those shorter fights. That's going to bring the averages way down for trials and normal raids, while an extra few mins on a 30 minute duty doesn't change much.

https://i.imgur.com/hSJW7Go.png

This is what I got from doing each roulette once per day.

yeah idk i queued for alliance and whenever I got smth with low points I just... left... (which is hella stupid!)

surprisingly i got thaleia twice and the first lvl 100 raid once.
which still means a lot of crystal tower, but less than expected lol.

but still there was a major difference between my points.

i think the relic step is fine as is