Materia - Bismarck - Eastern La Noscea

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Originally Posted by Velthice

Anybody post this one yet?
https://i.imgur.com/zKbaBno.jpeg

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Because disrupting some zones on Bismarck and bringing no actual benefit (i don't see PVP popping longer or DF popping off constantly with random duties) is the same. And even then, as others said, its been asked to hey, take it to Mist where it doesn't affect anyone. You can still have your fun. Yea, totally the same...

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Originally Posted by ChrysOCE

Because disrupting some zones on Bismarck and bringing no actual benefit (i don't see PVP popping longer or DF popping off constantly with random duties) is the same. And even then, as others said, its been asked to hey, take it to Mist where it doesn't affect anyone. You can still have your fun. Yea, totally the same...

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Any fault or inconvenience a player gathering lies wholly on SE themselves, and not on the players. They could lock Bismark as a travel destination, they could create additional instances. Instead SE has chosen the tried and true SE strategy of "doing nothing"

But don't worry, despite their inaction, SE has a recommended solution for you, as they detailed in Dawntrail's launch
https://i.imgur.com/fYEJiWd.png

Now granted, OC players can't hope entire data centers like the rest of us, but you can still visit your neighbors. As an Aether resident, I for one would like to congratulate Bismark natives for having their very first "first world problem"

People on twitter like photoshop ig ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Originally Posted by Velthice

But don't worry, despite their inaction, SE has a recommended solution for you
https://i.imgur.com/fYEJiWd.png

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Not really apples to apples when:
https://i.imgur.com/e0RoWu3.png

What you posted is regarding login queue times and people trying to world visit/dc travel to a congested world/data center that isn't their own. That wasn't a suggestion for when zones are unavailable inside of the game entirely AND ON YOUR HOME SERVER. Square Enix has historically always cared about people's home world experience and the new player experience that Yoshi P talked about on livestream several times which factored into why we don't have marketboards in various zones, why they don't incentivize running content on other data centers as a solution to not having cross-dc party finder, etc. That is also why they add new instances when they expect players will cause these zones to cap out.

Funny enough the main data centers never faced this problem before where a zone was locked off entirely day to day besides Balmung Ul'dah, which had a decade of roleplay history and lore for why it was congested specifically and ppl wouldn't just go somewhere else. In fact, Square Enix made the data center travel restrictions tighter just because NA chose to ignore them asking them to travel to lower population areas and tried to brute force their way onto a data center while using 3rd party software to do it. Recommending it for OCE people to do when your peers rejected it and caused problems until Square Enix forced their hand is hypocritical. Square Enix has also never dealt with a random player on twitter able to spontaneously spawn thousands of players wherever they ask to the level of Quicksands and keep it that way for weeks potentially months.

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Originally Posted by Velthice

Any fault or inconvenience a player gathering lies wholly on SE themselves, and not on the players"

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This is simply self justification. Whilst SE can and should implement measures which was the entire point of the posts based on Support Feedback, placing the blame wholly on SE when people involved in the event can also easily move and limit the disruption to Bismarck is just deflecting. The community should also step up and take ownership of their choices and decision to remain in place. With a bunch of social media personalities with large followings involved in the initial event as well as discord groups, I'm sure there could be simple methods for them to try encourage people to relocate elsewhere to spread the burden. Especially if this event was created with the FFXIV community in mind.

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Originally Posted by ObscuraFi

Not really apples to apples when:

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Actually it especially applies. Especially when the part I quoted comes later in the article than the part you quoted, as a solution to players who are still experiencing the inconvenience of congestion. So it's actually my post that invalidates yours, and not the other way around, so thank you for that!

Anyway you can find the world transfer option by right clicking your character name on the login menu. I recommend that until either SE addresses the issue or the activity dies down. Players might have priority login to their home server, but that's the only grace we're given. You don't actually own your home server, the server space is public property, open to the use for whatever fanciful purpose the playerbase decides. As players, we have no ability or authority to police people visiting our servers. I can't stop people from primal and crystal coming to aether to raid, nor can anyone stop people from going to Bismark to afk on their island or whatever it is they're doing over there

Regardless, I'm sure people will eventually tire themselves out and go home, and this will all become a non issue. Or maybe it won't, and Bismark will become the international Balmung, and the identity of the server will forever be warped. Who can say?

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Originally Posted by Velthice

as a solution to players who are still experiencing the inconvenience of congestion

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k, guess we're just ignoring what congestion actually means in the lodestone for the sake of arguing. no point of responding i guess

For context, this is in the same article. This first part is recommended for JP players, but I think the same solutions can be applied to Oceanic

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Originally Posted by Lodestone

Travelling to a less-crowded World via Data Center Travel, using the World Visit System, or travelling to the Oceanian Data Center via Data Center Travel is recommended during periods of high congestion.

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And if they needed to spell it out for you any clearer

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While there will be restrictions based on the World Visit System or Data Center Travel, you will still be able to progress in main scenario quests, as well as find parties and participate in duties through the Duty Finder, so we recommend considering this method depending on your situation.

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You can complain about it all you want, but a solution already exists for the problem people are having

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Originally Posted by Velthice

You can complain about it all you want, but a solution already exists for the problem people are having

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I feel you may of missed the point.

Refer to Issue 2. Timed nodes cannot be accessed on other servers. Grade 3 Thanalan Soil for instance in Western Thanalan
Refer to Issue 3. You're asking us to leave our own server.

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Originally Posted by SophiaDL

Bismarck just became Balmung 2.0 at this point really, it's a good thing for Balmung, but a bad one for Bismarck.

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I'm just going to say the tourists visiting Balmung act odder than the people from Balmung. Please stop sending them to us.