Just Delete Picto Please

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Originally Posted by Carighan

No it is actually nearly exactly that.

Just like in WoW, we expect balance between various jobs (=specs) of the same role (=class) here. We can swap between them out of combat, some trade damage or tanking or healing output for some other utility, but overall we expect a rather balanced outcome. Really the only big differences are a) You need to level specs one-by-one here and b) You get very few shared abilities between jobs of one role (compared to specs of one class).

Why shouldn't we compare things that mechanically work the same or highly-similar to other games? Use available data, other games worked these approaches before, we can look at what did and did not work for them.

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The main point of specs in ANY system that has it is to allow a player a customized experience with a standardized loadout. That's what spec means: specialization. Ffxiv's job system is the standardized loadout without customization options, otherwise known as not having spec options.

To suggest its our version of "spec" options is obsurd. It's basically the opposite: you get your kit. You have no further choices with your kit. It's like saying League of Legend champions themselves are different specs. It's just ignorance on how the entire system works in the context of mmos and games in general.

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Originally Posted by IOwn92FCHouses

The main point of specs in ANY system that has it is to allow a player a customized experience with a standardized loadout. That's what spec means: specialization. Ffxiv's job system is the standardized loadout without customization options, otherwise known as not having spec options.

To suggest its our version of "spec" options is obsurd. It's basically the opposite: you get your kit. You have no further choices with your kit. It's like saying League of Legend champions themselves are different specs. It's just ignorance on how the entire system works in the context of mmos and games in general.

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There might be some word-confusion here.

I'm not talking about the actual talent trees or anything like that, that is, stuff where you customize your spec. I'm talking about picking your spec, respectively swapping to one. And I'm saying that jobs in FFXIV aren't as comparable to classes in WoW or professions in GW2, but rather to their specs respectively.

Mao thinkings is nots so easy to equates specs in WoW to jobs in FFXIV. Once has character max level in WoW, is easy to change specs. For FFXIV, has to level several jobs. That means much grindings and is nots nearly as funs as characters with multiple specs in WoW.

Sune imaginings if grinding dungeons was funs again

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Originally Posted by Valence

Sune imaginings if grinding dungeons was funs again

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Would be nice. Just gets rid of DDR and add more random elements. Mao really liked deep dungeons. As for other aspects of game, Mao rediscoverings WoW and realizings just how lackluster gameplay is in FFXIV. Take gatherings for example. In FFXIV gatherings is always same spots and always safe. In WoW gatherings is tricky with differents kinds of nodes showing ups in differents places and always with danger from critters. For MSQs is mostly boring fetch quests and watchings cut scenes in FFXIV. In WoW, MSQs has lots minigames and stuffs to do. Is breaths of fresh airs for Mao agains. Mao actually gets to play the game in WoW. In FFXIV, Mao gets to watch the game. Mao hopings SE makes FFXIV more like a game whats meant to be PLAYED.

don't hold your breath cause this is not going to happen no matter how much you beg

https://x.com/takomi_82_96/status/1872903535735828526
Can any other DPS job do this in any other Ultimate or MINE Savage?

don't worry, it must've been done with a very skilled group and required a lot of coordination to do. No normal group would ever do it so it doesn't matter /s

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Originally Posted by LibitIncarne

https://x.com/takomi_82_96/status/1872903535735828526
Can any other DPS job do this in any other Ultimate or MINE Savage?

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Yes. Fru's checks are a joke, even without picto.

Now they can just stop making Ultimate fights. As they did say why spend so much time and money creating a Ultimate if people are going to make it easier by using illegal third party tools

Now they have made a funny legal tool to make Ultimate easier and it's called Pictomancer xD

I've never before disliked a Job before, but this Job being allowed to be overtuned for this long has made me really hate this new job, and hope they no longer make any new Jobs and rather focus on the ones they have instead.