square enix: we need to talk about hunts and why you refuse to address the HP issue

Increasing the boss HP works in the interim maybe but it doesn't do much either considering how many people are going into hunt LS and zurging the mob anyway. Aether alone, a hunt train on average can have 300+ people hitting the mob, it's just not gonna survive and people need to accept that. Not to mention, long term, (assuming you significantly bloated the HP of these mobs), it falls flat as you essentially make these mobs grinds to kill even one for the eventual smaller groups once hunts starting dying down.

As for making it a fate, that's also dumb, for the sake that there would be nothing distinct about it from any other fate boss. Hunts are SUPPOSED to be 4-8 man party bosses that people take on. It was the community that chose to make entire LS around the system to zurg mobs. Devs shouldn't accommodate in that aspect as it's contrary to the intended design of it to begin with.

Beyond that S Ranks are still bulky enough, and special fates are as well.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

A DT A rank has 32 million HP and S ranks have 87 million HP. The current EX bosses have around 60 million HP. That alone should provide a good enough indicator of how undertuned they are.

It does not matter, and has not mattered since the dawn of the hunt system that the developer "intent" was for them to be fought in small groups because people will inevitably min-max the heck out of any system you put into the game, and in this case it was by coordinating ridiculous amounts of players to gang up on the hunts so they die before they can get more then a few mechanics off, which fundamentally makes the experience feel like a dull grind.

I think the simplest solution would be to just give the hunts a special buff that either raises their HP or reduces damage taken by a small percentage for every player over the "intended" amount for them (8 players for A ranks and 24 for S ranks would be reasonable IMO) within a 100 yard radius up to a certain limit.

They added extremely aggressive scaling to the two special boss FATEs this go-around (Such that both can end up with over 1.5 billion HP if there are enough players around) so if they were willing to address that, I don't see why they can't do the same for hunts.

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The solution is to make it like Treasure Maps/FF11 where the party goes to the hunt location, use an item to spawn the monster, and only the players in the party that spawned the monster can hit the mob. There you go. Hard bosses for small groups set out in the open world.