Viper is feels too busy because button erognomics is awful

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Originally Posted by Atmaweapon510

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There's no way around it, Serpent's tail has to be bound to C and then the other two dance around it. Anything else and your thumb has to extend outside of a comfortable range to constantly hit your abilities. This is really annoying because it means you also need to reserve V and Spacebar for your other two if you want to avoid overtaxing your thumb.

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BTW there are ways to sidestep most of these kind of conflicts between being able to press movement keys and abilities.

One is to use a mmo mouse (which i can't because getting a left handed one is a pain).

The other is to use a "normal" gaming mouse with a couple of side buttons. You can bind left/right strafe to those, jumping on the middle button, and the game makes you move forward out of the bow of you click lmb+rmb. This way you can do all the movement with the mouse and your other hand is free to reach any key on the keyboard at the same time.

I've played mmos with that setup for 15 years and it's so comfy I can't imagine doing it differently

https://i.imgur.com/d9hWjUB.png

This is my hotbar setup for viper. Only up to level 90 (for the story) because I don't plan to take it to 100

1 to 5 is Dreadwinder. I would just go 1 - 2 (3 4) - 5 (4 3). Alt 1 to Alt 5 is the AoE version. Uncoiled fury is -, Serpent's coil is Ctrl 1, Slither is Ctrl 2.

6 7 is the single target Dread/Steel Fangs, 9 0 is the AoE. 8 is serpent's tail, nicely located in between the single target and AoE.

No problem on keyboard and... no problem with controller as well, and I barely play with a controller.

A you problem as always.
Seek for a solution to proprely bind your shortcut and train on a dummy.

And if you don't like the business/button mash gameplay, Viper is not for you.

Next.

playing controller, can't say I have any issue but also know it could be better tbh
Here's the link to my hotbar setup, feel free to tell me if there's anything wrong

Here's my layout so far (subject to change if job gets simplified)

https://i.ibb.co/w0XKVMq/Final-Fanta...7-47-16-18.png

Is it just new job feel for it being busy for you? Or is this similar with Samurai and Monk? I know on the first day of early access, I thought pictomancer felt very busy and confusing for me, then after a week, I go do a roulette with it and am like "Oh, this is very manageable."

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

No problem on keyboard and... no problem with controller as well, and I barely play with a controller.

A you problem as always.
Seek for a solution to proprely bind your shortcut and train on a dummy.

And if you don't like the business/button mash gameplay, Viper is not for you.

Next.

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Link is broken I think

The biggest thing that makes me salty about this is that the Awakening GCDs gets put on my bars in the order "1432" instead of the clearly intended 1234 because of what was comfortable for me. Surely there was a better way of designing this class' button organization than "bend over backwards to figure out hotbars that work at 80 because it's so bloated, then find out at 90 that apparently my buttons do not match what the guy at SE's office thought they should be."

And that's without using gamepad...

https://i.imgur.com/z4LEdjS.png

Viper is super easy for me.

Most of the time, i use normal keys for single target and Shift+Key for the AoE Equivalent.

Main Combos are on 3 and 4, Q,E and R for the Cooldown Combos. I placed the oGCDs on 1, 2 and Mouse Wheel + Shift for easier use depending on AoE or Single Target. The Awakening Skills turn into 3,4,E,R which is quite handy.

I also had to duplicate the OGCD weaves multiple times next to their GCD triggers as well else it's just a nightmare. Makes it much better, although at the coast of some hotbar bloat.