Pictomancer is insanely overtuned and needs to be fixed before savage drops.

OP predicted picto overtuned on release day. And it is in fact, overtuned. Give OP a cookie.

I do agree picto needs to be toned down and BLM most likely needs a buff as well but I don't want them to jump the gun and nuke the job's dam. Caster as a role has been for years one of the worst balance roles in the game all thanks to one single thing...the rez. I know so many love their rez mages but the rez is what keeps the role so poorly balance and now we finally have a caster that doesn't have a rez it needs to do at least nonsam melee levels of dps to make it worth taking over a rdm or smn or as the 4th dps. I do not want it to be nerf to have slightly higher numbers than rdm/smn. If that happens no one will want it in their party. They rather have a rez mage or a BLM. There would be no reason to bring picto over rdm or smn if it numbers is similar to thiers.

Honestly, I think they really need to either completely remove the rez from casters or make the rez as a role action that has a 60-second cooldown. That is why they can easily balance this role.

Does PCT need to be nerfed? Yes.

Will people whine when PCT is nerfed? Yes.

Take some potency off PCT, and give it to BRD, and MCH please.

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Originally Posted by Ayakia

I think its insane that SE is taking stuff away from Viper but isn't touching PCT. I have PCT at 100, my wife VPR at 100.. I think PCT needs a DMG nerf and VPR a DMG boost. I cannot believe how quickly I kill things solo compared to ANY OTHER JOB I'VE SEEN. Its *nuts.*

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viper adps is higher than pct adps

Picto feels way stronger than it is because it has the ability to start every encounter with an art nuke, so weaker enemies are gonna die fast of course. Still needs a smaaall potency reduction at least.

A more pressing problem is black mage desperately needing a buff, it's not performing well. Ranged classes in general are doing pretty poorly.

PCT feels overtuned in dungeons because it benefits probably the single most of any class with downtime because the motifs are instacast outside of combat. So generally you can open a dungeon pull with say hammer 1->pom muse->hammer 2->swiftcast->wing motifs->wing muse->mog of ages->hammer 3 which is a disgusting amount of front loaded potency, but after that you fall back on your aetherhue combo which is pretty weak in AOE

In 100% uptime fights (or close to it) PCT is only slightly ahead because of its raid buff, when you pull out its raid buff it’s only doing as much as the weaker aDPS melee (like say NIN), this is fine for a selfish caster as a selfish caster should be competing with the melee for the top DPS. Tje problem is more BLM is undertuned because even though it’s selfish it’s aDPS is barely holding onto a melee spot

PCT doesn’t feel overtuned to me. It is a burst job. They said they are going to buff BLM. They didn’t say they were nerfing PCT. I hope not.

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

Having seen some halfway competent Pictors around, I agree that their potencies need toning down. It can easily outdo other DPS jobs by several hundred DPS.

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I don’t think so. A good VPR/SAM/RPR can do way more dps than a picto. Picto is one of those jobs that has a burst start but then the dps dies down allot until motifs come off cooldown. Not taking into effect that you have to paint them again which takes 3 seconds each time. Can only swift cast one motif every 40 seconds. Picto is not sitting at the very top of the dps charts. It’s in the top 5 for sure but not killing the selfish dps. The melee still sitting at top above picto. The only job that picto is destroying and shouldn’t is BLM which is why they are getting buffs. Picto is fine the way it is. Some are playing dungeons and thinking this but dungeons mean nothing. We shall see when savage and the new ultimate comes then that will tell if picto needs a nerf or not.

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

I don’t think so. A good VPR/SAM/RPR can do way more dps than a picto. Picto is one of those jobs that has a burst start but then the dps dies down allot until motifs come off cooldown. Not taking into effect that you have to paint them again which takes 3 seconds each time. Can only swift cast one motif every 40 seconds. Picto is not sitting at the very top of the dps charts. It’s in the top 5 for sure but not killing the selfish dps. The melee still sitting at top above picto. The only job that picto is destroying and shouldn’t is BLM which is why they are getting buffs. Picto is fine the way it is. Some are playing dungeons and thinking this but dungeons mean nothing. We shall see when savage and the new ultimate comes then that will tell if picto needs a nerf or not.

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They've already gathered enough info via FFLogs and other sources to show that it's mostly a problem relative to the other DPS with damage buffs/utility.