Hamlet Seal Drop Rate

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Originally Posted by DarthTaru

That sucks but this goes to the heart of the problem with the NA player base outside the top endgame linkshells.
This is not the way to proceed. All of that time, work and effort and you left it all to chance and got burned.
You need a linkshell, structure, organization, and a plan. We prioritized players within our linkshell based on various factors and passed all seals to them until they were complete. As a result we have one party of players now working on Ifrit for completed relics and another party of players working on their last 1~6 seals (this with losing many a seal to the occasional pick up player when we were short handed in the wee hours of the night).

FFXIV has moved into a new stage and it seems the NA player base is largely still stuck in a 2010 mindset where you could get away with being a loner or in a dead linkshell of 5 people. The game has changed but the NA players, in large part, aren't adapting like their JP counterparts.

You need to either join a permanent team or create one or you'll end up unsuccessful and jaded. 14 hours straight of Hamlet hell is quite the commitment and most linkshells would (if they operate efficiently and not like a band of pirates) reward that effort by feeding you your Hamlet seals.

I hate Hamlet. To pass the time during Hamlet we think of things in XI we would rather do than Hamlet (fully merit a job in a Dunes lvl sync party, Eco-Warrior, Jormy PUG until successful) so I sympathize with your night of demoralizing hell but the honest truth is....

You're doing it wrong.

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Pretty much this, you are going to need a reliable group of people to get past not only this stage but the rest of the quest in general. If you can't get a static for this thing/ aren't in a linkshell there is really no hope of completing a relic, atleast not in the games current state. Maybe when they raise the level cap it will be puggable.

For whatever reason people still are under the impression they can do this because most people are still on the hamlet stage of the quest and unfortunately this just is not going to be the case. PUGs can pass off doing 5 chest speed runs but not ones in less than 17 minutes, and the fact that alot of pugs and even linkshells can't even beat garuda since the hotfix shows alot of people don't have a chance to beat ifrit, even once the strat comes out.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Having a team would be nice. But I ended up getting burned on Hamlet WITHIN a endgame linkshell and left it.

So be careful who you pick.

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Actually Hiir is leaving out a few details, she's good at that. 3 people, including herself, rolled/randomed on a hamlet drop, she lost, threw a fit and left....

Who are you?

brb putting some popcorn in the microwave

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Originally Posted by Req

Pretty much this, you are going to need a reliable group of people to get past not only this stage but the rest of the quest in general. If you can't get a static for this thing/ aren't in a linkshell there is really no hope of completing a relic, atleast not in the games current state. Maybe when they raise the level cap it will be puggable.

For whatever reason people still are under the impression they can do this because most people are still on the hamlet stage of the quest and unfortunately this just is not going to be the case. PUGs can pass off doing 5 chest speed runs but not ones in less than 17 minutes, and the fact that alot of pugs and even linkshells can't even beat garuda since the hotfix shows alot of people don't have a chance to beat ifrit, even once the strat comes out.

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no matter how much you tell this to people they wont believe it, they wont be having it

relics are obtainable to them, and they should be able to pug it

i know my group is a semi static, we are probly going to be REALLY slow at the AV/CC stage cuz we cant do 17 minutes, but we dont care about that, we arent in a rush.

And as far as hamlets go, i think we have gotten around 30 seals total from all 3 places(we do about 2 full day runs a week) in 3 weeks. and we have no issue at all with this drop rate, its been good to us so far with all the other stuff weve gotten cuz we are after more then the seals, which alot of people seem to think is the only thing that drops

I actually think Hamlet Defense serves this purpose, by the time I get 9 seals, I'll know who my group is.

*popcorn*!!

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

You will never get a relic if hamlet seals is the steps you are whining about.

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Um...No. What are you talking about? This is the absolute worst step by far as you have to spam it literally hundereds of times for 8+ people to get all their seals, getting top 3 is a pain most of the time too.

Beastcoins is just a moderate but simple grind, raids are entirely possible in 17 mins if you ignore the other chests and Ifrit extreme is just a challenging fight you do once, right?

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

*popcorn*!!

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

brb putting some popcorn in the microwave

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Hate to disappoint guys but he's ignored. :(

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Originally Posted by UmJammerSully

Um...No. What are you talking about? This is the absolute worst step by far as you have to spam it literally hundereds of times for 8+ people to get all their seals, getting top 3 is a pain most of the time too.

Beastcoins is just a moderate but simple grind, raids can be done in 17 mins easily enough if you ignore chests and Ifrit extreme is just a challenging fight you do once, right?

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wow, you obviously havent read into the next steps

17 minutes also REQUIRES all chests too

hamlet seals are also pretty much guarenteed at any zone if you get top 3 and go for enough runs in a day(all the bad luck in the world wont rob you of them at that point