How is this NOT harrasment/griefing?

Not harrassment or griefing but incredibly bad manners. Not an ideal solution but I'd have just sat out the next behest he did. As you can only do every other behest you could have avoided him this way.

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Originally Posted by Yucie

the 50 should be the one to either a) leave the behest alone until these people leave or b) go to another camp altogether. There's absolutely no reason one 50 should have the entire reign of a public event just because he wants his pretty little number to grow; people should be more courteous and step down when they see other people in need of something.

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And whose place is it to say which person's need is more important?..

I believe it's unfair to say one's need is more important than another's in a game where each person/group has something to gain. They have equal right to be there. The best thing they can do is work together. Or if they can't, try not to disturb each other.

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Originally Posted by Jekyll

While according to the rules they did nothing wrong. I do feel that he could've let OP at least claim the mobs then kill them so OP would've received exp.

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now this i completely agree with. no rules were broken, but it still doesn't pass the smell test.

they could have even joined the party and done just like pl is done with claim all mobs together at once and then let them kick him. they'd get all drops and all exp, but he could have gotten the faster kills and quicker end towards the achievement. that would have been the correct way for both groups to handle it without having an issue.

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Originally Posted by charlemagne

Not harrassment or griefing but incredibly bad manners. Not an ideal solution but I'd have just sat out the next behest he did. As you can only do every other behest you could have avoided him this way.

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Actually you can do them every half hour. Once you do one, you can't accept the next until 2 minutes after. The Behest starts 3 minutes after.

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Originally Posted by Kensaki

I'll just counter that with the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Thanks for playing though.

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But that few is bigger than you, and there's nothing you can do about it. Best you can do is not do the same when the tables are turned.

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Originally Posted by Kensaki

I'll just counter that with the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Thanks for playing though.

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Are you serious right now?

"He is not breaking any rules" - that's right

But what he's doing is totally not right ... It can be done without claiming mobs ... I did that many times, I just wait till they claim the mob, then I attack/kill the mob ... I get the credit for behest achievement and they get their EXP

Wondering, is it hard to make a system that prevent such things !!

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Originally Posted by Giant

"He is not breaking any rules" - that's right

But what he's doing is totally not right ... It can be done without claiming mobs ... I did that many times, I just wait till they claim the mob, then I attack/kill the mob ... I get the credit for behest achievement and they get their EXP

Wondering, is it hard to make a system that prevent such things !!

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Nothing is wrong with the system. In fact, it's great that one can hit a mob claimed by others to help them out. On the other hand, everything is wrong with some player's behavior.

wow so he killed all the regular mobs and left the now over-level boss mobs to kill you guys so that you would fail the behest?

thats cold as ice!

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Originally Posted by Nabiri

And whose place is it to say which person's need is more important?..

I believe it's unfair to say one's need is more important than another's in a game where each person/group has something to gain. They have equal right to be there. The best thing they can do is work together. Or if they can't, try not to disturb each other.

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I have to disagree.

It's one person with incredibly bad manners and a silly intention of working on his 'achievement' - which is nothing more than a pretty number that says "oh, I've done stuff here x amount of times, I'm a badass!"
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The person who is doing behest with an honest intention - getting experience points to level up and make actual progress. This person will gain experience, knowledge, and maybe even abilities on his class.

Who has more to gain? The person who has need of the experience from those mobs.
In light of this fact, I'd say the achievement means little to nothing, even less so if the person is a douche.