How can we reopen the FF14 subreddit?

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Do you know what we call people that restrict or destroy information? We call them suppressors. The current subreddit moderators that persist with this blackout are restricting and suppressing the information on their respective subreddits and have earned themselves a place among history along those who burn books and libraries.

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That's only the case if their end goal is restricting the information forever.

Their actual goal is to cause a temporary inconvenience so in the long term the information stays up.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

The service is provided to you for free, you are not entitled to it. If they decided from one day to the next to close it down entirely, its their choice, be happy it will come back at all at some point.

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What service? Who is providing me service, mods? Its not their platform to provide me any service whatsoever. Yes im entitled to it. They are not entitled to close the subreddit hundreds of thousands people come to annd depend on. They absolutely do not have that right and i hope reddit removes them all.

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Originally Posted by Yastru

What service? Who is providing me service, mods? Its not their platform to provide me any service whatsoever. Yes im entitled to it. They are not entitled to close the subreddit hundreds of thousands people come to annd depend on. They absolutely do not have that right and i hope reddit removes them all.

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They're implying that most of reddit's submoderators are volunteers. Some are. Some aren't. At the least most of them get influence and power in exchange for their time but there's been a handful of scandals with moderators of larger subs taking rl cash bribes for different purposes. A lot of reddit's third party tools also straight up sell your information, similar to what reddit itself does(and they acknowledged this during the API pricing changes by admitting that was mostly how they afforded the API in the first place).

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Yea why didnt you host all the information yourself then. Would have been so easy, right? This centralization of internet platforms has only happened because people like you are too lazy to host everything yourself and arent result of compounding complexities. What alternative platforms exist that a full on migration could have worked for (for which you would have again cried about inconvenience)?

The second paragraph is just deranged lmao. You could not have found a worse comparison. GG

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As a temporary measure I probably could actually. There's a way of getting around the private communities and seeing what's in them even right now and I could probably export a lot of pinned threads straight to somewhere like github. Could also use google's data storage and put it on sheets but that wouldn't really be clean or accessible via web searches.

There's nothing I could really do in the long term though. "Do it yourself" is never a good argument anyways. Large issues like these require groups of people to come together to work together to solve the solution. The resources are there. People just have to be willing to do so. It's honestly like asking one person to stop a war. They can't do it but it's clear that if the resources and effort that are going into said war were used elsewhere then it could be stopped.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

If you look through my post history you'll find that I've never suggested supporting SE blindly. I've always said that people should DO something instead of complaining constantly while supporting the corporation. Paying for 5 subs while constantly belittling anyone that says something positive about the game? Hell yea I'll call that out. Anyday. Without apology.

Reddit mods are DOING SOMETHING. They're not just sitting there supporting the CEO while saying "we don't like this..but shrug, guess there's nothing we can do". I applaud someone actually following what they say.

As for snide/sarcastic comments, I'm totally a hypocrite lol. I felt your comment was so nonsensical that I couldn't help myself. I apologize though, I could have said that in a nicer way. That part is on me for sure.

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There's like two or three trolls on these forums that run around with multiple accounts. The majority of people you call out give detailed constructive feedback that you rip into just for the sake of it.

I'm not suggesting that the Reddit mods do nothing. I'm suggesting they do something more effective. You're free to come back to this post in a month when Reddit is dead because the changes went through anyways.

He's a moderator on the internet. On an internet forum. He does it for free. He takes his job VERY seriously. He does it because it is the only amount of power and control he will EVER have in his pathetic life. He deletes posts he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset, he has an asthma attack.

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Originally Posted by Yastru

What service? Who is providing me service, mods? Its not their platform to provide me any service whatsoever. Yes im entitled to it. They are not entitled to close the subreddit hundreds of thousands people come to annd depend on. They absolutely do not have that right and i hope reddit removes them all.

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Uhmm actually they quite literally are, they dont get paid for it as far as I'm aware and if they do get paid its a pretty small part of them that does, it's literally voluntary work, so no, you are not entitled to anything.

They provide it, what have you provided ? Who are you ? No one, you're just a random user, thought so.

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Originally Posted by dansetal

Thing is the Reddit CEO has said they will just wait it out so this has no benefit to any of us.

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"The people who stand to gain from the strike failing said that the strike wasn't going to work, so why are people striking" That's you, that's what you sound like.

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Originally Posted by dansetal

Please don't tell me you're going to suggest Novice Network because that shit is filled with useless mentors

Regardless, only 1% of people use third party apps, but more than 95% of people are lurkers, meaning they just the subreddit to get answers to question or look at a meme or two and now we do this blackout for the 1% and ruin the experience for the 95%.

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And where are you getting those statistics?

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Originally Posted by CaffeinatedKing

The blackout has been nothing but a headache for the common user

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Yeah thats kinda the idea.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Isn't the blackout pretty selfish too? They had multiple options they could have worked on that wouldn't inconvenience others. Reddit has a large amount of useful data on it and right now that data is being held hostage.

When are people going to learn that dragging others into their protests by forcefully inconveniencing them is not going to make them want to support them but rather go against them instead?

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A protest that doesn't inconvenience people will never achieve anything, as there is no incentive FOR it to achieve it. What you think MORALS is gonna make a convenient protest work? If morals were a factor, they wouldn't be needing to protest to begin with, grow up.

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Originally Posted by kaizokuj

A protest that doesn't inconvenience people will never achieve anything, as there is no incentive FOR it to achieve it. What you think MORALS is gonna make a convenient protest work? If morals were a factor, they wouldn't be needing to protest to begin with, grow up.

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Doing something that inconveniences others will not make them be on your side.

Also, the reddit protest is beyond idiotic. Its a bunch of freeloaders who don't realize all these API tools utilize reddits resources which costs them money. The days of all these free services on the internet are coming to an end because just like twitter, reddit was never a profitable business.