P8s has been cleared (spoilers!)

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

They disregard any helpful advice because if they took it in they would actually have to try. Needless to say this also makes them pretty insufferable to be around, causing friction with groups they join, which of course they write off as "toxic players" instead of reflecting on themselves at all.

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I've found pretty consistently that those types of players are always either in no FC or have a solo FC. Their constant deluge of negativity is incredibly abrasive and drives people straight in the opposite direction.

I wouldn't mind having a video of the P8s clear just because the visuals look really neat in that image.

Also, i hope one day we get back to full Raid dungeons with trash mobs and everything, because i miss those days, the current design philosophy of just having a single stage arena that you zone into is kinda sad. :(

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

It's a waste of time to reply to them, they'll spend the rest of their life with their fingers in their ears living in their own reality. These are the same people you meet in RL who always have some friend drama going on and complain how everyone is out to get them.

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Yeah, i know all of this. Theres a saying for it. "If every group you are a part of has issues, the problem isnt everyone else." I harbor no illusion that im changing Jamie's mind. I usually ignore their posts since its usually the same. But sometimes i do reply, not so much for them but for anyone new who might be reading along and has maybe had bad luck with groups and is starting to think the things Jamie says. A string of bad groups on some new hard content, for someone with less experience they might start to think these things. So a gentle reminder now and again how much help is out there... it doesnt feel like completely wasted effort anyway. Its the same reason i sometimes encourage people to skim the Tales thread. Yeah, you see that negativity(it IS a vent thread). But you also see people sharing good stories, people learning from others mistakes, and people trying to solve issues and help each other out too. Its all there.