Barrier to entry for crafting is to damn high.

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Originally Posted by YamiVKD

Thank you for the advice. Gathering isn't really a problem for me atm (Though I loathe FSH lol), I'm just getting gathering scriips so I can gather mats rather than buy them so I can craft the more efficient
crafter collectables.

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something to also keep in mind...

if they follow their pattern, late 6 expect new crafter gear, akin to Aesthete's in Shb

properly melded this will likely last well into 7. if they do, highly recommend making it if you can. (it usually has some crazy material requirements, but is well worth it in my opinion if you are going to do a lot of crafting)

make HQ Calamari Ripieni, adds 120 craftsmanship, 82 CP

it will help immensely in making your stat goal

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Originally Posted by ICountFrom0

If you get the new purple stuff, do you need to stop and make pactmaker (6.1) stuff to make perfectionist in HQ? Or can you coast in using HQ parts and heavy buffs?

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Perfectionist is the "new purple stuff". It has the same stats as unmelded HQ Pactmaker gear. The only difference between the two sets is you cannot overmeld the Perfectionist gear. It only has the standard materia slots.

It works perfectly well for making the new 610 gear. You just need to spend more time making more HQ materials than needed with pentamelded Pactmaker.

An augmented version of Perfectionist should become available in 6.4 when it's time to make the 640 combat gear. It's hard to say how difficult it will be to make the next crafted crafting/gathering sets, which will probably be added in 6.3 as usual, but then those who use the scrip gear usually have no interest in those crafted sets.

Im pretty sure the 610 gear is behind Master Books, which is not entry level crafting, entry level crafting is repairs and your basic 80-90 gear, for the best gear you need to do some work, and about 30-40 min of crafting for scrip gear is not that much work

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Originally Posted by Darkestnight

Im pretty sure the 610 gear is behind Master Books, which is not entry level crafting, entry level crafting is repairs and your basic 80-90 gear, for the best gear you need to do some work, and about 30-40 min of crafting for scrip gear is not that much work

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Latest Master books added in 6.2, yep.

Endgame crafting also just needs a high barrier to entry, because once you're past that barrier you're done.


Unlike battle content there is no time limit, no enrage, no mechanics to learn, the process of crafting the item itself is a cakewalk.

Macro rotations are worked out day 1 of a new recipe appearing, you have basically an infinite amount of time to think every next step in your crafting process through, you can simulate crafting an item with no material cost until you manage to complete it, either on a website like Teamcraft or even in game.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

Endgame crafting also just needs a high barrier to entry, because once you're past that barrier you're done.


Unlike battle content there is no time limit, no enrage, no mechanics to learn, the process of crafting the item itself is a cakewalk.

Macro rotations are worked out day 1 of a new recipe appearing, you have basically an infinite amount of time to think every next step in your crafting process through, you can simulate crafting an item with no material cost until you manage to complete it, either on a website like Teamcraft or even in game.

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Savage tier would be expert recipes, which are not macro able (I mean they are, but like other content once we've scaled past that stat). You'll find this tiers Expert recipe at the bottom of Master Book X. 60 Durability and 7480 difficulty. That is 2420 more difficulty with 10 less durability. AFAIK these are barely being managed rn with manual crafting.

(Edit) *more than the Rinascita stuff

Some would actually tell you that it's far too easy to get into crafting now compared to how it used to be.

Just like high end raiding, high end crafting is meant for the most dedicated players. Blue Scrip gear is never going to be as good as a pentamelded crafter set. This is just yet another case of something that requires dedication and time in the game for it to be worthwhile pursuing and rewarding once you get there.

I've learned alot just reading this thread. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Arrhin

Savage tier would be expert recipes, which are not macro able (I mean they are, but like other content once we've scaled past that stat). You'll find this tiers Expert recipe at the bottom of Master Book X. 60 Durability and 7480 difficulty. That is 2420 more difficulty with 10 less durability. AFAIK these are barely being managed rn with manual crafting.

(Edit) *more than the Rinascita stuff

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I would consider expert crafts to be more akin to ultimate, more of a personal challenge than anything else. From what I can see so far the current expert recipes also serve no purpose other than to give you a shiny landmark on your Island Sanctuary, similar to ultimate.

I have checked your Gear right now and Oh Boy ...

1. Gear Item Level 560 is to old, you will need the 590 Gear

2. Materia is a Mix of CP 1, 2, 7, 9, 10 Craftsmanship 10, 14, 21

3. Feet, Earrings, Necklace, Bracelet, Rings have all red Materia, that means those Materia is useless, cause it is over max Craftsmanship.

There a 3 Ways to get better Gear
- Farm all Material and craft it
- buy it from the Marketboard
- earn purple Scrips and buy the Gear