PvP is simply garbage

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Originally Posted by Sacro

That it can be in this sorry state and this is the best its ever been, that is a sorry statement. And rage is a good gauge for how badly this community wants decent PvP.

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Whatever it is... It's a step towards the right direction. Nah rage is a sign how pathetic the community is.

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Originally Posted by Sacro

Asking nicely clearly isn't working.

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Being rude will work the opposite way. Goodluck!

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

Whatever it is... It's a step towards the right direction. Nah rage is a sign how pathetic the community is.



Being rude will work the opposite way. Goodluck!

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Something has to balance out the fanboys and phallus riders who praise everything about this game and consider pointing out flaws to be a mortal sin.

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Originally Posted by Sacro

Something has to balance out the fanboys and phallus riders who praise everything about this game and consider pointing out flaws to be a mortal sin.

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Not sure what you're talking about with sudden turn to fanboys vs critics all over again lmao.
Can't get my head around your logic, therefor I'm done here.

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

PVP is in it's best state it has ever been. Can still be improved by a lot. Even better if they can read forum for feedbacks, not just simply hate/rage thread.

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I'm not entirely convinced that it's in the best state. I'll wait until 6.3 before judging, because the dev team has a lot of work ahead of them.

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A thread that has also generated quite a bit of actionable feedback from other users. It's also worth noting that its good for SE to be able to gauge how angry players are with certain issues with the game.

Believe it or not people are allowed to be angry, and angry at your favourite gaming corporation, especially considering how bad PvP is, and the fundamental issues behind why it is so bad.

Not everything unpleasant is toxic. Grow up.

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You can be angry all you like, but expressing it like this has historically managed to get very little done, and in the present era is outright dismissible.

And yes, the language being used in the OP is still toxic. If you believe otherwise, you may wish to consider taking your own advice. This isn't how adults get things done in reality.

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PVP is in it's best state it has ever been. Can still be improved by a lot. Even better if they can read forum for feedbacks, not just simply hate/rage thread.

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Is that the consensus nowadays ? Because everyone I used to PVP with has stopped playing because they hate it now.

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Originally Posted by GordonGeeko

Is that the consensus nowadays ? Because everyone I used to PVP with has stopped playing because they hate it now.

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I think its better despite the balance problems.

Frontlines is pretty bad right now. The fact they removed CC diminishing returns is just baffling to me. You can be stunned from 0->100 and premades are taking advantage of this. I'm fine with some CC and understand premades have a bit of an advantage, but you shouldn't be able to prevent someone from actually playing entirely like that. Purify is pretty bad too. I'm pretty sure it works on less things than it doesn't at this point.

If you do somehow manage to survive with something like a lucky guard that the server was on your side for and prevent the CC, you'll just get pulled back and die anyway the moment guard is over.

I actually saw someone get pulled 3-4 times in a row in one of my more recent frontlines matches. The fact that's even possible is pretty rough.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

You can be angry all you like, but expressing it like this has historically managed to get very little done, and in the present era is outright dismissible.

And yes, the language being used in the OP is still toxic. If you believe otherwise, you may wish to consider taking your own advice. This isn't how adults get things done in reality.

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I guess only the most toxic scums were asking for LD changes, considering it how long it took for them to actually touch the ability. You and I both know that feedback doesn't matter when it comes from anything but the Japanese forums. Besides, there's just too many idiotic things in PvP that it'd be hard to not be toxic because of them. For example, why does turning PvP effects down to "Some" also remove the majority of LBs? The devs seems to think that if you don't want to see the various glitterbomb effects being thrown all over the place then you don't want to see game changing LBs.

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You and I both know that feedback doesn't matter when it comes from anything but the Japanese forums..

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Almost makes me want to go back to WoW. At least then I know I'm not being ignored because of where I live. But because everyone is being ignored. "Here you are all equally worthless" is preferable to "Some are more equal than others".