Bidding is a terrible bandaid. . .

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Originally Posted by Hoehenflug

Didn't you say you report cheating players? That's all I meant really.

You, a solo player, is not supposed to access those features. Why do you think SE has put up all these obstacles? It's an abuse of a greyzone, much like tax evasion. A greyzone a lot of people won't enter for different reasons, which is why the greyzone works in the first place.

At least former shell owners made up a sob story to justify owning multiple houses, but this recent development of people flaunting their shells is just brazen.

RMT sellers just sell their throwaway accounts along with the houses and have been preparing for this, just as you did.

You belittled less wealthy players on multiple occasions.

I'm super fine, ty for your concerns.

Bye. :]

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As an FC member neither myself nor any of my friend group had access to those features, now I got the FC house my entire friend group can access that content :)
My FC has myself, some friends and a couple sprouts. But FC housing is and pretty much always was just a personal house for FC leader and a tp hangout spot for it's members. There is no sob story needed to justify making an FC to get access to content that was barred from you. It is their poor design and players are working within it. I avoided making an FC for quite some time but then I found myself needing a material from submarine expeditions and my FC leader was unwilling to send them out to get it (even tho FC members helped set up ALL of those things), at that point I just decided it is time to get something for myself if I want these things. I can't expect anything from other people, if I want it I will get it myself.

If someone want's to buy a house via buying an account, sure. That sounds like a lot of hassle, since I would assume the buyer has an account already with reasonable time investment. So you either abandon that account and use the one with the house or accept you need to pay 2 subs and switch accounts any time you want to decorate. Not only that account buying is always risky business as the person you bought it from can claim it was stolen and take it back with the intent to sell the plot again. RMT is never a smart move imo.

I don't belittle less wealthy players, I point out anyone can make the gil if they bothered to make the effort, I wouldn't call that belittling personally. It is not difficult, if gil is your main issue for yourself or your FC. You didn't prepare enough.

I would say if you are super fine you would not go hunting through post history, looking a little unhinged there :D

hey I got personal mansions on 2 worlds and an FC mansion on my main, how's that for bragging xD happy times! Each time I look down (literally) from empyreum 52th plot on those Limsa-dwelling peasants scrounging for that last half mil to buy a small, I smile. You plebs make my day.

I mean... Its plot 11 x) I would expect way more there tbh lol

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Originally Posted by Lieri

They need to add the maximum number of bidders for one plot. If someone is late for that, they need to find another one....

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By this, do you mean, each plot has a maximum number of bidders (say 20 as an example) and once that is subscribed further entries are closed?

If so it likely won't fly with a chunk of forumites as it's actually less fair than the old placard click system!

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Originally Posted by Hoehenflug

You, a solo player, is not supposed to access those features.

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If the devs didn't want solo players to have a FC of their own, they would have required 4 separate player accounts to create and maintain a FC. Yet they didn't.

Additionally, FC master is a rank awarded to only one of the 4 founding members. It's always been a system where one player character has all the power, whether there are 200 other members or none. The only way to guarantee access to those features (that were put in the game for a reason) is to be the leader. Others can tag along if they want.

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Originally Posted by KhudusQestir

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how does looking at this sort of competition make you feel?

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It makes me feel fucking fantastic because all these paying subscribers have an equal opportunity at owning a house without having to give up hours of their life to spam clicking a placard.

Apartments and FC rooms are available for people who want their own little corner of Eorzea. They can be decorated just fine. If you're not in a FC... well, you could have founded a FC at the end of the first lottery and met the 30-day requirement to buy land by the start of the second lottery. And now you would own your own FC plot that you could decorate to your hearts content and start playing with FC workshops.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Sure. but will they?

We don't know that SE has set up anything to monitor whatever they would consider weird behavior for FCs and housing. Weird behavior can sometimes be exactly that and not a violation of ToS.

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Yeah I'm not going to get my hopes up on that one. I've watched botters and RMTers run roughshod over housing for years now. A couple are still attempting it, even though it's been made more difficult with the lotto being bot proof and FC lead transfer taking 30 days. I'm still tracking them, see if SE does anything about them.

Lmao, where did my list with the lottery woes go? There's not even any indication it got deleted, along with Aelin's response.

Mods on these forums are the most dubious I've ever seen, ngl. Keep the housing mafia and obvious offensive threads alive, but delete fair criticism. Gotchu.

Remember to safe your messages externally, y'all.

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Originally Posted by Hoehenflug

Lmao, where did my list with the lottery woes go? There's not even any indication it got deleted, along with Aelin's response.

Mods on these forums are the most dubious I've ever seen, ngl. Keep the housing mafia and obvious offensive threads alive, but delete fair criticism. Gotchu.

Remember to safe your messages externally, y'all.

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Hm, we might not agree but I am not for having posts deleted. Not like we were throwing racial slurs at each other. Oh wells.

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Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver

Hm, we might not agree but I am not for having posts deleted. Not like we were throwing racial slurs at each other. Oh wells.

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Yea, totally agree. Oh well, it's not like it would have made any difference in end. Have a nice day.