Praetorium AFKers

If you have an afk person the other 7 should use return and afk with them. If you can't beat them, then join them. It's not like you need someone to actually do the dungeon to get the rewards.

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Originally Posted by Kirika-

Many times the /afk'ers are actually RMT bots, the one controlling them queuing up for the MSG so they can progress to the point of unlocking profitable dungeons to bot in.

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That would be extremely inefficient for RMT bots when they could just queue together and use their hacks to have the dungeon completed in a couple of minutes.

I've also never seen any character in a MSQ roulette with a RMT bot name, which stand out like a sore thumb.

The AFKers are either "normal" players using bots to do activities the player finds distasteful or lazy players hoping the group will either not notice them or have some go-go-go player keeping everyone in combat so the party never gets a decent chance to kick them.

I've actually come to enjoy grinding Prae endlessly to level alts and collect Tomes. I've even developed some head canon about the instance. For example, I like to believe the first phase of Ultima Weapon where he's almost invincible is just him learning how to operate it since he just spins around casting one ability lol.

"Bear witness to the true power of the Ultima Weapon!" *after I read the manual*

PraeFKers

I'd care about this more if Prae wasn't so trivially easy that half the party could AFK and it'd still get done in mostly the same time

Meh, some people are too aggressive on these people. There are people that AFK to do chores DURING the trash mobs (which is, basically nothing) but actively take part in battling the bosses and they still get kicked (my friend)

My personal take on it is, if you sign up for group content, you participate in that content. Regardless of how easy it is, you specifically signed up for something intended for group participation and you are expected to do your part even if it's for 20 seconds of combat between a swath of cutscenes. If that's too much of a burden for the rewards, there's other more engaging content available.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

My personal take on it is, if you sign up for group content, you participate in that content. Regardless of how easy it is, you specifically signed up for something intended for group participation and you are expected to do your part even if it's for 20 seconds of combat between a swath of cutscenes. If that's too much of a burden for the rewards, there's other more engaging content available.

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I mean your rouletting it half the time, and the place cant be called a dungeon in my opinion.
Its basically a fifty minute movie with no voice acting. Honestly they should just nerf it down completely and make it a solo run with the scions. There is hardly anything you need to do there, fights are cleared so quickly by the time you stop zoning out from voiceless movie its dead.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

That would be extremely inefficient for RMT bots when they could just queue together and use their hacks to have the dungeon completed in a couple of minutes.

I've also never seen any character in a MSQ roulette with a RMT bot name, which stand out like a sore thumb.

The AFKers are either "normal" players using bots to do activities the player finds distasteful or lazy players hoping the group will either not notice them or have some go-go-go player keeping everyone in combat so the party never gets a decent chance to kick them.

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I have ran across RMT bots in the two MSG roulettes over a dozen times over the last two years.... on average, it would be two characters per run.... Most I have seen was 4 at once.
They would stay at the starting point, only catching up as they port into a boss arena after we engage, they do nothing at that port in spot, repeating for each subsequent boss.
It would be very obvious what they were, as they "match" the typical RMT bot you run into in the wild or at the quest turn-in NPCs with the default sprout characters, default gear, no FC, and gibberish names, only not doing the teleporting and "underground" hacking.

Generally we would /vkick them after a couple bosses, as it was very plain what they were by then.

So, yes inefficient, but it is something they do.

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Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun

Always been at least to my eyes proper players as they have proper names not like the bots who RMT shout in Limsa

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I'm just mentioning what I have also seen, not just it being a "regular player" who is non-participating.

Yes, I run across a "leech" fairly common, who either just auto-follows or stays parked at zone-ins (MSG start and each boss arena), who are simply not doing anything but leeching the exp/tomestones/progress.
They are normally not sprouts, but a regular player, sometimes in FC, just not participating for whatever reason.
They might even be controlled by one of the other players in the party (especially if they are auto-following), as in a multi-box setup or whatever.... /shrug
Just /vkick and /report

But, as I stated above, I do also run into real RMT bots in MSQ roulette, as I described.

I see lots of them and sometimes bots in it. I wish they fix those enemies agroe that doesn't reset when use the teleportal to go to next area. It make kicking them alot easier.